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      Excuse me, I think you mean their boundaries. One does not own their own boundaries in the presence of cats.

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      The thing about cats is that their concept of boundaries and interaction are wildly different from people and dogs. Cats seem like they know exactly who is allergic to them and seem to be laser guided right to them because a lot of the things you’d do if you’re allergic to them come off as being respectful of their boundaries. What seems like disinterest to us seems like an open invitation to them.

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      Yeah you can do the same thing with dogs. It’s not a logical position, it’s an emotional one.

      Dogs are clingy in always want to lick you, gross. At least if cats lick you it’s nice and dry.

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      I dislike cats because the vast majority of their owners let them roam free, killing native wildlife.

      So from my experience in my country, cats are attractive to irresponsible people who show disinterest in protecting the environment around them and want a pet they don’t need to maintain much.

      There are of course many cat owners who keeps their cats indoors or in cat runs and I have no qualms with them, they’re great pet owners - but they’re a tiny minority of cat owners.

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          I also dislike feral cats and would gladly euthanize them all for the good of local ecosystems.

          Before some genius 'um actually’s about cats being native in some areas - yep, genius, and then they’re not feral cats are they.

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          That is like, your opinion, man. The idea of an ‘indoor cat’ is only about 30 years old.

          The vast majority of pet cats worldwide are allowed to roam, and when they do they breed and create strays and ferals. It is such an epidemic problem that there are trap and spay programs running in most of the world.

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        My experiences with cats:

        Several neighbors had cats, all roamed free. Spent many hours cleaning bird carcasses and shit from the backyard. Needed to check daily to ensure my dog didn’t find said carcasses and choke on bones.

        Roommate’s adopted cats. Shit all over the house because owners never cleaned the boxes. The smell of ammonia is burned into the back of my nose. The cats loved me because I was always the one to eventually clean their boxes and feed them, but they disgusted me and I was out of that place ASAP.

        Now as an adult I have a deep dislike of both cats and their owners. If you have an indoor cat, I wonder why you didn’t choose a dog but respect your choice. If you have an outdoor cat, get fucked. Now when I see a cat waking along my fence I run outside screaming at it and fire airsoft pellets at the fence (to scare, never to actually shoot the cat).

        I don’t dislike cats because I can’t control them, I dislike cats because their owners tend to be shitty and I’m left to deal with what I perceive as another person’s problem.

        Now I’ll let the downvotes roll over me like the tide.

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          That’s why I got my cats neutered. Now I live in the country side with no neighbours, so having cats taking care of the mice and rats is a must!

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          Yeah this isn’t true, this is standard BS repeated by people who don’t have cats and know nothing about cats.

          Cats have a hunting success rate of like 20% at best so no they don’t litter the environment with carcasses, most interactions between cats and birds result in the bird flying off and the cat sitting there looking sort of stupid. Otherwise birds would have gone extinct long before humans developed language.

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            Most of my cats hated birds. they always scared them away, so they wouldn’t alert the rats and pheasants they were hunting. They were rarely successful (about 3 or 4 rats in their resp. lifetime, no pheasants, that would have been wild.) For my well fed cats it seemed never about the kill, only hunting.

            Well except when they brought me mice whenever I was on a diet, I think because I was malnourished. Helped me figure out the best vitamins tho.

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      It’s a double-edged sword though. The cats now love you and want to sit on your knee all of the time but also like to secure themselves with their unnecessary razor claws.

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          The problem is getting to the completion of that process while retaining as much blood and skin as possible.

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            How are you doing it? Mine sit right through it and only get a little impatient near the end, but they know the drill. Even the stray cat let me do it just fine before we spayed her. I think she likes the attention.

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    amazingly effective post for making unpleasant people out themselves

    the fact that anyone can find cats unpleasant is absolutely incomprehensible, they’re walking fluffy pillows that lay on your lap and rumble like an engine, literally living stuffed toys.

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      You have never met an asshole cat?

      Listen, I’ve had some great cats. One in particular was so chill and cuddly when he got diabetes and I had to give him insulin injections twice a day, he would jump up and then snuggle and purr after. Greatest cat ever. That cat had his own cat who was super skiddish with people. If you looked up scardy cat you wouldn’t see a picture of this cat because he would run and hide if you pointed your attention in their direction, let alone a camera. They had radically different personalities. There are also asshole cats. Frankly a lot of them (kinda like people).

      I think some people have interacted mostly with the assholes and choose not to continue, it’s at least a bit understandable.

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        I have in fact not met any asshole cats, the worst i’ve experienced is cats outdoors who scurry away when approached.

        If a cat is “an asshole” then something is probably wrong, maybe it has an injury/disease that no one realizes because cats instinctively hide that, or it’s being mistreated somehow without people realizing it.

        All the cats i’ve gotten close to have been lovely, not necessarily actively cuddly at all times but if they don’t want snuggles it will be quite obvious and then i just leave them alone and that’s that.

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          Replace “cat” on that argument with “person” and it sounds a lot like dating someone because you plan to “fix them” or think “if I just love them enough”

          I don’t like like cats because they remind me of shitty people I’ve dated.

          Edit: and the immediate downvote (or arguments in real life) reminds me of times when you say “hey… your partner is kinda mean to you sometimes” only to hear “YOU DONT KNOW THEM LIKE I DO!!! THEY LOVE ME!!!”

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              Valid argument but I stand by what I said.

              Just for the record I don’t “hate” cats. Have a cat if you want. I’ll even pet and play with your cat.

              Just don’t come at me like there’s something wrong with me because I don’t want my own pet cat.

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          Wrong guess again.

          I have two cats, sisters from the same litter. One is an asshole that only shows affection for the two hours before feeding time. The rest of the day is pure asshole.

          The other one who grew up in literally the same situation from birth is generally pleasant.

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        The only asshole cats I have met were assholes because they lived outside and taught other animals daily, or they had been abused by a human. Otherwise they are just skittish.

        But as a percentage, I would say of the cats that I have met, I have been able to pet 95%.

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          I think finding some cats to be assholes could be not understanding them too.

          I had a cat growing up people would generally have called an asshole cat. Thing was that he REALLY didn’t like being pet, except for head scritches. So people would see him and try to pet him and he would swipe and hiss at them in response. I get why they saw him as an asshole cat when they just saw him act that way.

          If you relaxed around him and only scritched his head, he was actually lovely. He didn’t really like cuddling either, though he liked sitting near you.

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            This has been my experience with people not understanding cat language. They think a swinging tail is friendly, or a side eye means being judgemental instead of weary, or that eye contact means attention instead of defiance, or that licking their lips means they think some thing’s tasty instead of a social deflection. Lol

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            It goes back to the meme at the top. If you think all cats should be in love with you and enjoy any kind of physical interaction you like, you’re going to call cats assholes, but if you consider the cat’s preferences for physical interaction to be paramount and read up about cat body language so you can interpret what your cat means, you’ll have a very different interpretation indeed.

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      I agree with you but in the exact opposite way you’ve described. People who pretend that everyone who dislikes cats are unpleasant are the ones outing themselves here. You sound like children.

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      As much as I love cats (literally in my username), there are certain valid reasons, at least for outdoor cats. In most countries they are not a native species and are thus predators the ecosystem isn’t built for. If you keep them inside, though, it’s all good!

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      To be fair just like all things some cats are lovely and some are jerks. I babysat a cat once while its owner was out of town for the week and it decided it didn’t like me so it peed in the bed again and again. It was a studio apartment too so it’s not like I could just shut it out of the bedroom.

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      I find cats aesthetically pleasant, elegant. I have shared a home with a few, never my own. And yes there are nice cats, whiny little shits, and pure spherical (no matter the angle you look at them) assholes, more than dogs, I’d say.

      However, the idea that they are going to shit, piss, and then play around with the litter they have just used to shit /piss, then lick their asses / genitals, then lick their fur and then hop onto a table/sofa/bed, or yourself, is truly objectively disgusting.

      The misconception that cats are clean, is because they lick their fur a lot. All they do is coat their fur in disgusting saliva, often contaminated with urine / feces. Cats are objectively as dirty, or more than a dog.

      I love dogs, but I don’t “kiss” them, they are not allowed on anything; sofas, beds, or god forbid, tables or counters. They have nice beds, know their boundaries (most animals need clear and simple boundaries and rules. Ambiguous rules, boundaries confuse and stress them). I don’t allow dogs to lick me. I pet and fondle dogs, give them belly rubs, etc. and ALWAYS wash my hands afterwards.

      Dogs and cats are dirty by definition, and that’s fine, that’s how they work, just operate with their non-cleanliness in mind.

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    My mom’s cat will literally punch you if you look at her funny not to mention saying her some shit. No chill at all. Cuddly as hell though.

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    This is some “seems good enough for social media” baseless blanket statement bullshit lol

    It’s reading into wayyy too much when plenty of evil and controlling people who love cats. Your binary (like/dislike) opinion of cats doesn’t say anything about what kind of person you are

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        It’s a nonsensical thought written in a way that makes it seems profound that, as a meme, gets shared as fact elsewhere

        OP is referring to an old meme from Tumblr, illustrating my point lol

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          Its too late. you’ve fallen into their thought terminating trap.

          You’ve objected, which means the meme is correct and are therefore against consent or some bullshit, idk man.

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    Cats can be trained, but not via social means. Cats are not pack animals, they completely no-sell peer pressure. This is a hard pill to swallow for the world’s packiest animal, the house ape.

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      That is a completely valid reason. There’s always the ballsack cats if you want to experience one.

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        The problem with cat allergies is their saliva, not the fur, so hairless cats are still a problem.

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          Personally, I’m more allergic to the litterbox dust and shit smell than fur or saliva.

          Also pretty sure it’s going to be subjective as to what will set someone’s allergies off, as allergies are extremely subjective.

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        I have cat allergies, and I can tell you for a fact that I am still allergic to sphinx cats. Possibly even more so.

        It has never stopped me from interacting with cats though, I just have to try to remember to take a zyrtec or something before hand

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      I remember reading something a long time ago about parents telling their kids they were allergic to cats to keep from having a cat as a pet, and the kids growing up believing that only to one day discover it was never true.

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    I think you can’t expect anything from cats. They historically lived on the farm with farmers, chasing rats and other annoying small animals, and that’s it. You weren’t supposed to interact with them much, they do their thing, you do yours. Maybe the children play a bit with them, but that’s it.

    If you want a companion, get a dog.

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      In my country today, dogs keep livestock together and ward off intruders (human or animal). The concept of a “pet” dog is relatively new and there wasn’t even dedicated dog food until a few years ago, they just ate scraps and offcuts.

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    I don’t think my cat consented to being dressed up as a banana and have their photos shared for likes but I don’t think that makes me a horrible person.

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    I wonder how he thinks cats are a lesson in consent.

    A cat just does, it usurps space, it assumes consent. I mean I love our cat, but it is not really possible to create boundaries.

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      You are thinking about it the wrong way around. The idea is that you cant touch a cat without ITS consent, or it will scratch the fuck out of you. Basically if you arent capable of taking a hint about the cats emotions, it will teach you a lesson you wont forget.

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        Aha. That makes some sense. I’m not sure how the controlling people will learn this lesson.