Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

Last week’s thread

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

    • Mii
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      63 hours ago

      Day 2686 of wondering how much Google can keep enshittifying everything it touches before people catch on.

      • @swlabr@awful.systems
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        I know you probably had no intention behind the number, but I just had to check. 2686 days ago was 12 June 2017. Pretty sure we’ve known about how google fumbles shit from way before then!

    • @YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems
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      64 hours ago

      But users like engagement! Which means seeing that the person wrote a thing and not reading the thing and making a human connection with someone who is, y’know, engaged in conversation.

      I know chatbots don’t track meaning, but I’m pretty sure words still mean things.

    • @BlueMonday1984@awful.systemsOP
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      anyone wanna take bets on how much pearlclutching surprisedpikachu we’ll see

      I suspect we’ll see a fair amount. Giving some specifics:

      1. I suspect we’ll see Sammy accused of endangering all of humanity for a quick buck - taking Altman at his word, OpenAI is attempting to create something which they themselves believe could wipe out humanity if they screw things up.

      2. I expect calls to regulate the AI industry will louden in response to this - what Sammy’s doing here is giving the true believers more ammo to argue Silicon Valley’s may potentially trigger the robot apocalypse that Silicon Valley themselves have claimed AI is capable of unleashing.

      • @skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de
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        perhaps saltman will have enough audacity to promote this as a way to ensure that some account is owned by a human, after flooding every corner of internet with ai slop and fake accounts

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    here’s the latest on the wordpress situation thanks to 404media:

    New alignment offer: I guess some people were sad they missed the last window. Some have been leaking to the press and ex-employees. That’s water under the bridge. Maybe the last offer needed to be higher. People have said they want a new window, so this is my attempt. Here’s a new one: You have until 00:00 UTC Oct 17 (-4 hours) to DM me the words, ‘I resign and would like to take the 9-month buy-out offer’ You don’t have to say any reason, or anything else. I will reply ‘Thank you.’ Automattic will accept your resignation, you can keep you [sic] office stuff and work laptop; you will lose access to Automattic and Wong (no slack, user accounts, etc). HR will be in touch to wrap up details in the coming days, including your 9 months of compensation, they have a lot on their plates right now. You have my word this deal will be honored. We will try to keep this quiet, so it won’t be used against us, but I still wanted to give Automatticians another window.

    there’s a (mid) joke here about how a boy who’s obsessed with photography really should understand more about optics

    and who wouldn’t trust their livelihood in a difficult job market to a promise from a very stable genius like matt, who will destroy you financially if he thinks you talked to the press:

    After an exodus of employees at Automattic who disagreed with CEO Matt Mullenweg’s recently divisive legal battle with WP Engine, he’s upped the ante with another buyout offer—and a threat that employees speaking to the press should “exit gracefully, or be fired tomorrow with no severance.”

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    822 hours ago

    New piece from The Atlantic: The AI Boom Has an Expiration Date

    The full piece is worth a read, but the conclusion’s pretty damn good, so I’m copy-pasting it here:

    All of this financial and technological speculation has, however, created something a bit more solid: self-imposed deadlines. In 2026, 2030, or a few thousand days, it will be time to check in with all the AI messiahs. Generative AI—boom or bubble—finally has an expiration date.

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      It really is incredible how bad twitter got to make me root for the company that thinks DID is good protocol design and that was started by Jack Dorsey.

      But heck it I’m (cautiously) rooting for Bluesky.

    • @Soyweiser@awful.systems
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      This sadly has caused my login problems to reappear on bsky. No idea what they are doing with their service, but I’m having regular issues with the site. Also seems ‘downforeveryoneorjustme’ enshittified. (the image is showing a part of the site which is now an advertisement for some AI bullshit chatbot/imagegenerator everything aislop roleplay thing). (seems to be fixed now, but wow did bsky have weird issues for me).

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    131 day ago

    Molly White reports on Kamala Harris’s recent remarks about Cryptocurrency being a cool opportunity for black men.

    VP Harris’s press release (someone remind me to archive this once internet archive is up). Most of the rest of it is reasonable, but it paints cryptocurrency in a cautiously positive light.

    Supporting a regulatory framework for cryptocurrency and other digital assets so Black men who invest in and own these assets are protected

    […]

    Enabling Black men who hold digital assets to benefit from financial innovation.

    More than 20% of Black Americans own or have owned cryptocurrency assets. Vice President Harris appreciates the ways in which new technologies can broaden access to banking and financial services. She will make sure owners of and investors in digital assets benefit from a regulatory framework so that Black men and others who participate in this market are protected.

    Overall there has been a lot of cryptocurrency money in this US election on both sides of the aisle, which Molly White has also reported extensively on. I kind of hate it.

    “regulation” here is left (deliberately) vague. Regulation should start with calling out all the scammers, shutting down cryptocurrency ATMs, prohibiting noise pollution, and going from there; but we clearly don’t live in a sensible world.

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      101 day ago

      Introducing the official crypto coin of the Harris-Walz ticket: JoyCoin! Trading under JOY. Every time a coin is minted, we shoot someone from the global south in the head.

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      God, I hope this is a scam, and that whoever is running it is just smashing together today’s buzzwords to print money.

      This 180$ ebook better be completely autoplagged and in no way intended to be informational.

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        81 day ago

        the upside of it listing a pile of author names: one can go look up their published works, and add them to crank trackers if necessary (seems likely)

        the ToC is some fantastical fucking nonsense

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      He also put ‘everything you post is now training data for ais’ in his tos apparently. So nightshade poison those images and start building a following on other sites artists. (And as a non artist, reminder to self to like and repost more artists I like).

      E: quick source

    • Mii
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      71 day ago

      I really wonder what the meeting looked like where they decided on that change, because I’m struggling coming up with a single argument for it that doesn’t boil down to giving abusive asshats more playtime.

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      I’m really really not happy about this. There is one person I’ve been trying to keep out for the last few years and now they can come crawl all my fucking posts?? And report my account!?

      Edit: apparently being protected should offer me some protection still.

  • @froztbyte@awful.systems
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    saw this via a friend earlier, forgot to link. xcancel

    socmed administrator for a conf rolls with liarsynth to “expand” a cropped image, and the autoplag machine shits out a more sex-coded image of the speaker

    the mindset of “just make some shit to pass muster” obviously shines through in a lot of promptfans and promptfondlers, and while that’s fucked up I don’t want to get too stuck on that now. one of the things I’ve been mulling over for a while is pondering what a world (and digital landscape) with a richer capability for enthusiastic consent could look like. and by that I mean, not just more granular (a la apple photo/phonebook acl) than this current y/n bullshit where a platform makes a landgrab for a pile of shit, but something else entirely. “yeah, on my gamer profile you can make shitposts, but on academic stuff please keep it formal” expressed and traceable

    even if just as a thought experiment (because of course there’s lots of funky practical problems, combined with the “humans just don’t really exist that way” effort-tax overhead that this may require), it might inform about some avenues of how to to go about some useful avenues on how to go about handling this extremely overt bullshit, and informing/shaping impending norms

    (e: apologies for semi stream of thought, it’s late and i’m tired)

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      I don’t know what’s worse, that or some of the weird twitter responses it’s getting

      • @YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems
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        I can also hear Timnit Gebru wailing in despair all the way from my house, because this is exactly the kind of AI-reinforced bias that she was talking about while everyone was arguing about whether to listen to the doom cult. These are not theoretical problems with the technology; they are fully extant and easily demonstrable. The more these systems are integrated into processes that effect actual people the more often we’ll see this kind of thing happen.

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    122 days ago

    it just clicked for me but idk if it makes sense: openai nonprofit status could be used later (inevitably in court) to make research clause of fair use work. they had it when training their models and that might have been a factor why they retained it, on top of trying to attract actual skilled people and not just hypemen and money

    • @V0ldek@awful.systems
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      82 days ago

      There’s no way this works, right? It’s like a 5y.o.'s idea of a gotcha.

      This would be like starting a tax-exempt charity to gather up a large amount in donations and then switching to a for-profit before spending it on any charitable work and running away with the money.

      • @skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de
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        72 days ago

        i’m not a lawyer and i’ve typed it up after 4h of sleep, trying to make sense of what tf were they thinking. they’re not bagging up money, they’re stealing all data they can, so it’s less direct and it’d depend on how that data (unstructured, public) will be valued at. then, what a coincidence, their proprietary thing made something useful commercially, or so were they thinking. sbf went to court with less

      • @froztbyte@awful.systems
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        72 days ago

        There’s no way this works, right?

        the US legal system has this remarkable “little” failure mode where it is easily repurposed to be not an engine of justice, but instead of engine of enforcing whatever story you can convince someone of

        (the extremely weird interaction(s) of “everything allowed except what is denied”, case precedent, and the abovementioned interaction mode, result in some really fucking bad outcomes)