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    Kelsey Grammer.

    I still can’t believe he’s riding the Trump train, and is returning as Beast for the new Marvel films at the same time. The cognitive dissonance is confounding me.

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    Sarah Silverman, said the palestinian babies need to die because theyll grow up to be terrorists then turned off comments for a year on ig, she said more than that had a whole tirade, ruined her. Shes back now pretending she didnt say anything, pr team put in work. My post on her reddit got deleted so I stopped caring about telling ppl, but this made me remember.

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      Really enjoyed the sarah silverman show, learning this and the cop in her show who was jimmy in bobs burgers went to the jan 6th riots really ruined it for me.

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    there is something about celebrity worship to be inferred from the fact that there is only 1 non-american celebrity listed in this tgread (spanish news anchor).

    that or it is selection bias

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    Mike Rowe.

    Had a really good following when he did Dirty Jobs and then did a hard pivot to conservative, anti-union, pro-profiteering talking head.

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      Anyone who does a “buy gold” commercial is instantaneously persona non grata for me. Such a remarkable litmus test. Mike Rowe is one of them.

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      In recent years, television personality Mike Rowe has amassed a wildly popular following due to alleged working-class straight talk about topics ranging from the affordability of college to reasserting a culture of pride in craftsmanship and labor. From his 5.2 million Facebook followers to his cable programs, his everyman schtick, on its surface, can be very appealing: after all, who doesn’t love a hard day’s work and loathe detached, ivory tower eggheads?

      But hiding under his superficially appealing blue-collar façade is dangerous ideology, one funded by the Koch Brothers and other far-right, anti-labor corporate interests and specifically tailored to pick off a certain constituency of Home Depot Democrats while pushing political impotence, anti-union narratives and anti-intellectualism. Through a clever combination of working class affectation and folksy charm – often exploiting real fears about a decline in industrialization – Rowe has cultivated an image that claims to be pro-worker, but primarily exists to line the pockets of their boss.

      Our guest is Street Fight Radio’s Bryan Quinby.

      https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/citationsneeded/CN64_20190130_rowe_quinby2.mp3?dest-id=542191

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        of course the Koch brothers involved, its either Koch, OR putin funded.

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          Thats why EVERY SINGLE MENTION of “Soros!” has to be immediately responded with “Kochs”

          Edit: fick thus gpddamn jryboard

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      oh yea, we knew his allegience when trump won his 1st term, he gave the interview “its not so bad, and you should accept it” yea we know your trying to surgar coat your support for him.

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          when trump stole his 1st term

          proven in court by the way

          I’m not familiar with that. Can you cite a source, please?

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      I like him. He feels like one of the only podcast guests out there who actually acknowledges that not everyone works in an office or a startup.

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      In that regard I have to praise Stephanie Meyer: she made her money and then fucked off, never to be heard from again.

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        I’m not sure who ever decided it was a good idea for celebrities to write their own brain garbage into social media accounts instead of having their media team handle it. It’s like how you’d never get Hollywood actors appears in a toilet roll advert until the ones they did in Japan got onto the web, and now it’s totally normalised for them to be undignified. I guess all of this coincided with the old star system being replaced by the primacy of IPs and endless “franchises”, where once the film poster used to just show Sandra Bullock and say “look, it’s Sandra Bullock you idiot” and that was enough.

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        I have to praise Stephanie Meyer

        Except the Twilight series glorified toxic relationships, normalized abuse and underage grooming, and hit an uncomfortable number of red flags in DSM-5.

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    Snoop Dogg. Black man playing songs at an orange man’s klan rally, at this point Martha Stewart is more gangster than he is.

    By the same token, my respect for Kendrick went up 1000% after his halftime show.

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      Yup, coward has been in hiding since the first negative articles came out. Just another sad human showing his greed over what is right.

      Hmm maybe there should be a new strain out there sold as Snoop Sellout Kush.

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        I’m ok with people shutting the fuck up and disappearing when they get called out for being arseholes. In fact, I wish more people were capable of that.

        I must have missed the latest Snoop Drama, but don’t bother to update me - I don’t care about Snoop. He always struck me as a dude that’s just constantly baked and will say yes to pretty much anything without too much scrutiny, so he can turn up pretty much ANYWHERE. That’s bound to backfire eventually.

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        If I ran a grow op I’d name that strain and funnel the proceeds to help trans kids with counseling and support, just to point the middle finger directly at their latest boogeyman.

        Shame since he’s been an icon for so long and helped a lot of kids with the football program, but I guess above a certain level of wealth the only religion you follow is money and everything else including morality is just an opportunity for profit.

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    Will Smith because of what he did to Chris Rock. Guy isn’t a genuine role model anymore.

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      Came here for this one. Fuck “separate the art from the artist.” I will never read one of his books again.

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        If he wasn’t preachy/performative about his “feminism” it wouldn’t be as awful

        Feminism is in quotes because IMO he doesn’t believe what he preaches

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          Yep. And to think I used to admire him. I’ve had some modest success as a published science fiction and fantasy writer, and I specifically cited him as inspiration for one of my published stories.

          Wish I could take it back.

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          He believes it, he just doesn’t practice it.

          Like most men in power, they use it as a way to get close to people they can assert their power or dominance over.

          I think he believes he’s actually a feminist. it’s a subtle difference, but an important one. He genuinely believes he’s a good guy and the things he does helps more women than it hurts.

          That’s why he’s a piece of shit and so dangerous. He believes his own lies.

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        She’s not the only one to do that. Many people precede her, including Rice and Biegel. Same within the retelling of myths and legends. Writers have been doing that for decades. There’s no need to make stuff up, he’s a horrible person without made up nonsense.

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          If you read her you’ll see what I am talking about.

          One good example. In her book ‘Death’s Master’ she came up with hte idea that Death and Delusion were relatives. He expanded on that idea with The Sandman.

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      too bad he really 2 good series going on, the series cancelled them both, not because of his sexual harrasment/assaults, now they cant continue due to publicity anyways.

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      Wasn’t really a fan as such, but I also though as far as billionaires go he’s at least useful to humanity.
      He should have kept to what he was good at - marketing big ideas. Unfortunately narcissists don’t work that way.

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        as far as billionaires go he’s at least useful to humanity.

        There’s a good argument that this is still true (PS: in historical terms) despite everything. Without China the green-tech revolution would be decades behind schedule, and it took Tesla to make China move.

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          it took Tesla to make China move.

          Maybe so, but I’m not sure whether Tesla really needed Elon Musk.

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            Really? So where are all its peer competitors? This person has obviously gone off the rails but was once extremely good at making seemingly impossible things happen.

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              Yeah, all those losers born in Soweto in 1971 who haven’t used their enormous wealth to fund a bunch of different business ventures. What are they even doing?

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              The charismatic guy at the top may always get all the credit, but hundreds of other people played a role in Tesla’s success. He wasn’t even a founder of the company. All we can really say is that he bought in at the right time, but we don’t know how much of Tesla’s success was down to his personal decisions. If anything, it seems like Tesla’s decline really started when Musk started using the company more and more for his personal pet projects (Cybertruck, Teslabots etc) rather than the cars that people actually want.

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              was once extremely good at making seemingly impossible things happen.

              Seeing them land the Starship booster on the chopsticks - I’d say that he still is.

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          and it took Tesla to make China move.

          Tesla maybe helped boosting Chinas EV industry … but very little for green-tech in general. And EVs are not a particular green or revolutionary technology in the first place.

          So no, I don’t think he did much for humanity here.

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            And EVs are not a particular green or revolutionary technology in the first place.

            I think most agree that, at least, EVs are needed to evolve away from the CO2 generated from petroleum consumption used in cars and trucks. Yes yes, “public transportation better for moving people” but that doesn’t work for all countries especially those with lower density population areas. Further “public transporation” does nothing for the “last mile” delivery of goods with regard to logistics.

            In almost every situation an EV is better than an ICE vehicle in respect to being “green” and vehicles are what our current systems are designed around.

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              No, I really don’t agree. Like, at all. The problem is largely that geometry of vehicles creates those highly-destructive, resource-intensive, low-density population areas, and that’s the problem that we need to address. In that respect, EVs are just like any other vehicle. Same streets, same highways, same parking lots, same garages, same bi-weekly grocery runs to the store 5 miles away. We can start to address those problems (zoning, building codes, environmental regulations, land-use, tax structures, and such) now, and it won’t be any easier after 20 years of further automobile-oriented development while we transition the fleet to EVs. It’ll just be 20 years more entrenched. Yeah, EVs help somewhat, but the way we’re approaching them now, they’re like treating 10% of your cancer.

              (I take that back if the EVs we’re talking about here are e-bikes and micromobility devices.)

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                You’re talking about trying to fix a multi-generational problem. In many places the things you’re asking to change have been in place for hundreds years. The politics and land ownership laws and implications are immense! That is NOT a fast problem to fix. If you’re taking EVs off the table, then that means you’re committing to 30-50 years of ICE vehicles pumping out CO2 all of that time.

                How can you consider non-EVs a greener solution in your scenario?

                (I take that back if the EVs we’re talking about here are e-bikes and micromobility devices.)

                Its simply not possible to deliver 2000kg or 2000lbs of cargo to a business for last mile delivery in a timely fashion without a much larger vehicle than an e-bike. Why on Earth would you want a belching diesel vehicle doing that for decades on end when an EV could it with zero CO2 emissions?

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                  It’s a multi-generational problem, so we should start fixing it now. Why is it going to be easier to solve 30-50 years from now? Why should we wait until we’ve transitioned to EVs to start the process? What is it about EVs is going to make that easier?

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            in fact EVS uses rare earth metals which are not mined in a ecofriendly way. the best way is to ride buses and fund mass transportation.

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          I agree that Ellen was significant in the race to EVs, but that is definitely in the past. As far as present tense goes, nah.

          The tenses are a bit murky “I used to think ‘he’s useful…’” “this still true…” could kinda go either way, but it sounds like you’re saying it applies today, and nah.

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            Just read what I write, rather than what you think I might be trying to say.

            I can’t find it now but there was an analysis a few days ago by a reputable source, maybe in The Atlantic, which said basically what I just said. It’s not scandalous. The guy has an impressive record as a business leader. Perhaps not as a product specialist, or even an engineer, but as force for making things happen at the company level.

            Anyway, apparently there’s not much willingness to engage in nuanced debate here so that’s all I have to say.

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      Never been a Musk fan but I remember on Reddit everyone was calling him the “nerd king” who would change the world

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        I’ll never forget the chill that ran down my spine when that thing with these cave kids happend in Thailand, and some random guy tweeted him: pleas mr. Musk, you are the closest thing we have to tony stark, help them. I felt genuinely disgusted.

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          Musk losing it and calling that other dude a pedo during this event is what got me to start hopping off the musk train, so I kinda feel thankful for it?

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            Watching the SpaceX engineers transform those pods overnight really highlighted the fact that all he does is talk until other, more capable people actually make it happen. They probably could have been quite helpful had he not got in the way with his tantrums.

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              At teh end it really wasn’t helpful at all and the diver who saved them explained why. That led to his tantrum. I appreciate they tried, but at the end they werre just victims of a marketing stunt.

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                they are not designed to be in caves

                are they design for cardboard box in the middle of a lake?

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        he always seem wierd to me wasnt a good first impression, he made news, i assume many people found out who he was when announcing the sub/calling the thai seals pedos.

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          Yeah, that thing with the Thai soccer team really opened my eyes. Later, I saw a documentary on the situation, and there was no way that his submarine idea could have worked, it simply would not have fit.

          But rather than accept that those on the scene were more knowledgeable about the situation, he immediately jumped to calling the rescuers pedos, as if the only reason they wanted to rescue them was because they were young boys, and wanted to molest them. What an unhinged take, proving that he was more interested in playing the hero and feeding his ego, than actually rescuing anyone. He saw an opportunity for global promotion, and was pissed when it was denied to him.

          It showed me a side that we hadn’t seen before, but turned out to be his real personality.

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            What an unhinged take, proving that he was more interested in playing the hero and feeding his ego, than actually rescuing anyone.

            Worse, it showed he couldn’t get his head around anyone else genuinely wanting to save children from dying. That was mask-off for his sociopathy.

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    Bill Cosby. I was raised on Bill Cosby albums and TV shows. I can’t listen to him any more.

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      My family had “The Best of Bill Cosby” album when I was a kid and we listened to it a lot. Some of the funniest bits on that album and I always had warm memories sitting and listening to them.

      Then it comes out that he’s a complete monster. All those family memories tied to that now, it really sucks.

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    American Beauty got me to like Kevin Spacey. Kevin Spacey got me to stop liking Kevin Spacey.

    E: mother ducking autocorrupt

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      hes also gross how he continue to deflect even after all it came out, pedos usually stay quiet.

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        If he’d handled it like an adult, owned up to his past behavior, and done something to show that he’s sorry, he might still be working

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    It’s not a Lemmy thread without some Star Trek references

    Robert Beltran (Chakotey), Roxan Dawson (B’Elanna), and Manu Intiravmi (Icheb).

    All three of these actors fell off after ST:Voyager and became vile conservative shit posters. I know Robert especially likes to respond to anti Trump or anti Trump Policy tweets the other ex cast members make with “both sides” arguments.

    It’s sad in my eyes, but I do hold ST on a pretty high pedestal.

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        It’s extremely funny that she ruined her own career, including a likely spin-off starring her, because she wouldn’t stop comparing the criticism of conservatives and their beliefs to the mass persecution and murder of Jews during the Holocaust.

        It’s also extremely funny that she went on to make a movie with The Daily Wire, no one saw it, it got called woke for being an action movie starring a woman.

        To top that off, it’s also extremely funny that The Daily Wire is FULL of people who couldn’t cut it in Hollywood, so they kept self-financing their own shitty movies, and are now in financial trouble.

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          Her movie grossed $7.00

          That’s SEVEN DOLLARS

          And nobody in this thread remembers her name lol

          Critical Drinker and his entourage can fuck off

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      Well, I always kind of hated Beltran as an actor. Really disappointed about the other 2 though, I had no idea.

      Edit: I’m not seeing anything whatsoever on Google about Dawson related to Trump or even the Republicans, aside from one single Reddit post with a similar comment.

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        Weird. There used to be screen shot receipts I saw years ago.

        Maybe she scrubbed it and turned a leaf? I hope so at least because B’Elanna was my favorite character.

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        Also of his volunteering with Oprah in Hawaii with the huge fire. Weird seeing humans that have exorbitant amount of money that can actually help, and they’re just passing out water bottles to the people that lost their homes saying that “they wish they could do more to help/hope things work out for them.” It was a publicity stunt at the expense of people who lost everything.

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        Look up his interview he did on Fox News last year. He basically blamed black people for there current situation in themselves and also said that Biden was a terrible president and he didn’t outright endorse Trump but he danced around it.

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          go figures since hes still with ASSOCIATED with the WWE fanbase, and in general vince who is a trump donor.

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          Awww maaaaaannnn… Tsk really? That sucks.

          Edit, from Wikipedia:

          As part of WWE’s non-partisan “Smackdown Your Vote” campaign aiming to encourage young people to vote,[405] Johnson had a speaking role at the 2000 Republican National Convention[406] and attended the 2000 Democratic National Convention less than two weeks later.[407]

          Johnson voted for Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012,[276] but did not vote in 2016,[408] and was an independent voter as of 2017.[409] He endorsed Joe Biden in 2020,[410] but told Fox News in an April 2024 interview that he regretted the decision due to it causing “division” and refused to endorse anyone in 2024.[411]

          Imo not good, but definitely nuanced and probably not great. I didn’t see the interview though so I don’t know.

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            He’s trying to stay independent because he fantasizes about running for president one day. He even did a TV show where the framing device was him being interviewed as a presidential candidate, so they could show his life in flashbacks. It was an obvious ploy to position him as a legitimate political candidate in viewers’ minds.

            Every rich and/or famous person now thinks they should be president.

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              Every rich and/or famous person now thinks they should be president.

              Grumpy Harrison Ford For President!

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        Why the rock?

        I believe he refused to endorse Kamala and then like a true coward said he was keeping his political views private, its was pretty sad. The pathetic coward was terrified of a maga boycott of his garbage movies.

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        hes also a very difficult actor to work with in the industry, hes known as the “ellen degeneres” of male actors. must have as much if not more attention as the lead in a movie, or as much action or more action than other people. also hes pretty much attention seeker, and people compared him to dave bautista, dave is actor, and he only wanted the glory of a movie star.