• conditional_soup@lemm.ee
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    17 hours ago

    This is the kind of thing people do when they fully believe that there is no path to justice. If we ever held cops accountable, this wouldn’t have happened.

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      Everyone exploding at this, but this headline seems written to stir controversy, and people don’t seem to be reading the article.

      Two key facts:

      • It’s reported that the 18 year old who was shot and killed was pointing a firearm with an extended magazine at officers when he was shot (though yes, he was running away, so yes, it could have been handled better, but there are thousands of more cut and dry cases to be mad about).

      • The deputy who was killed may have absolutely nothing to do with what happened

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        Key “facts” about your “key facts”:

        The cop that shot him CLAIMS the kid pointed the gun at him, but the video evidence contradicts that. In fact, he was prompted to shoot the moment he exited his vehicle by other cops hollering “He’s got a gun!” He relied on their statements, not his own experience of seeing the gun.

        The fact that the kid had a gun is automatically in dispute. ALL cops have throwaway guns to be used in exactly this sort of a case. The video does not show him with a gun, but one was on him when he was found? Highly suspicious.

        This kid stole a car, which was recovered. That is not a death penalty situation. Nobody should be murdered over an insured car.

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        I really don’t think either of those facts mattered to dad. I think what matters is the reality that police are so rarely held accountable in even those cut and dry cases that there is no perception of justice at all.

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        Coppers should be taught de-escalation, but rarely are, especially in the USA based on what I see.

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    Cops who shoot people who aren’t shooting at them and who haven’t been involved in a violent crime deserve to die too.

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    “Let me be very direct: We cannot allow individuals to flee from officers with a loaded firearm aimed at them,” she said. “When this happens, the outcome is almost always tragic. No one wins, and everyone involved is affected.”

    Absolutely disgusting mindset for the police to operate in and it should be a condemnation of them, not an excuse for killing a fleeing person merely suspected of committing a property crime.

    Armed gang murders member of the public (with the full intention of “investigating” themselves and finding they did nothing wrong), is shocked that public would kill one of their own, and expects the public to shed tears for their fellow gang member (who was really a great guy… every other gang member loved him).

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      18 hours ago

      so the kid, unarmed, was shot in the back because he didn’t submit?

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        The kid was armed and pointing it at the cops.

        But he also wasn’t shooting at them, he was running away. In that scenario, you don’t shoot him, because even if he starts shooting he ain’t gonna hit shit.

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          Police claim “kid was armed and pointing it at the cops.” Cops are famous for making up bullshit to justify their murders after the fact.

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          I try to go to the gun range every two months or so. I can tell you, with adrenaline and panic, idk if I’d hit 50% and thats standing still. Which is scary because who knows what you’ll hit. That’s why I go to the range, to be good enough. Running I wouldn’t even bother shooting.

          Cops are definitely not going to the range enough.

          politifact on if cops hit 30%

          2019 Miramar shootout(the florida UPS shootout)

          In 2024, important details were finally revealed, a total of 20 officers from 4 different agencies fired upwards of 221 bullets in a span of 25 seconds, Hill was struck 40 times, meanwhile Alexander shot himself, Ordonez was struck 12 times, and the 5 bullets that stayed in his body were all traced to police weapons, and Cutshaw was struck once in the back of the head, which was also traced back to police.

          Four people were killed in the shootout. Both robbery suspects, Lamar Alexander, and Ronnie Jerome Hill, both 41, were killed by police. The hijacked UPS driver, Frank Ordonez, 27, and bystander Richard Cutshaw, 70, were also both killed in the shootout;[6] A female store employee was shot and wounded in the initial robbery.

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    This was a very confusing headline. It sounded like they were charging a dead person.

    Bottom line is:

    1. 18 year old gets shot by police
    2. The father of the 18 year old hit and killed a deputy with his car later on.