Nope. It’s far more complicated than just two sexes, and the more it is studied, the more complicated it turns out to be. The notion of two distinct sexes is purely a human construct and real life is not like that.
Name a third sex. Name a third sex that exists in any creature on earth. There has been nothing learned that has added any complication to sex since sex was “discovered”.
Large and small gamete production. Distinct sexes.
X and Y chromosomes. Distinct sexes.
What are some of these things that you think have complicated biological sex? How many sexes do you think there are?
Your link is about DSDs, and says that their existence means that “sex is a spectrum”. That’s completely wrong. Every DSD is a genetic defect that either affects a male or a female. You might be a male with an extra X chromosome that caused some birth defects like an underdeveloped penis and internal testes - but you’re still a male, one of the 2 sexes.
Saying DSDs existence means sex is a spectrum is like saying that because some people are born with birth defects where they only have 1 leg, that the number of legs that human beings have is a spectrum, or that because someone was born with 12 fingers it means that humans don’t have 10 fingers, but their number of fingers is on a spectrum.
You can see how obviously wrong and silly that is, can’t you?
You can rant and rave about it and call me names, but you can’t change reality, no matter how much you hate it. Nature and biology simply does not care what you think.
You didn’t just use fungi to try to prove that there are more than 2 sexes, did you? Surely not….lol
What is the name of a sex other than male and female?
but you can’t change reality
Oh the irony. You’re literally denying science and biology because you want to believe that men can be women whenever they want to just by saying they’re women.
As you said, nature and biology do not care what you think. Nature and biology created 2 sexes and 2 only.
Also I didn’t once “call you names”, not sure where you got that from……
Also dismissing posts that disagree with you as “ranting and raving” despite having no resemblance at all to ranting and raving is a terrible and amateur debating/discussing/arguing stunt.
What are some of these things that you think have complicated biological sex? How many sexes do you think there are?
Fungi. Fungi have complicated biological sex and a Schizophyllum commune has around 23,000 sexes. You asked. I answered. Since you just dismiss any facts you don’t like there’s no point talking to you. As I said, you can believe what you want, but that doesn’t change reality. Try doing some reading rather than assuming you know everything and making a fool of yourself with your uninformed over-confidence.
So your entire argument is “fungi”? So, so much wrong with that lol.
Saying that fungi even have a sex is dumb. Fungi “mate” by their cells just fusing together when they touch another fungi. It doesn’t have a “sex”, doesn’t have a “gender”.
The biggest issue with your “fungi” point, however, is that fungi aren’t human beings. They’re not even animals. How they reproduce, or even how many “sexes” (if you insist that’s what it is in fungus) they have has zero effect on species that do only have 2 sexes. It’s like saying that because plants can photosynthesise sunlight, humans can too.
I am only too happy and willing to listen to “facts” that I don’t “like”, and I’ll happily have a back and forth and explain my reasons why I disagree - like I have in every post so far. You’re not presenting facts though. You’re using a completely different species as your example, while completely misunderstanding what you’re presenting.
Unless you can name (and produce scientific/biological evidence of) a third sex in human beings (or even animals if you want), one that produces a third type of gamete, one that has chromosomes other than a combination of X and Y, then you’re wrong and have been severely mislead and duped.
Fungi aren’t human beings. Even the idea that fungi can have a “gender identity” or a biological sex is absurd.
in fungi there are no biological sexes, because even in anisogamous species, individuals are hermaphroditic and produce both gamete types. For this reason, the term mating types is preferred over sexes, and, thus defined, only individuals of differing mating types can mate
There’s a sonic boom coming from those goalposts because they are moving so fast. You asked for an example of something in nature having more than 2 sexes because you originally said that there are only 2 sexes in the natural world.
But anyway, let’s change your requirement and make the definition of sex being only applicable to organisms that only produce one set of gametes.
But wait! It’s a disorder, so it doesn’t count, right? Ask yourself why it is a disorder. The reason is that humans have decided that there are only two sexes. It’s circular reasoning. There are two sexes, so when someone comes along who is neither or both, they don’t count because they should be one or the other. Why should they be one or the other? Because there are two sexes. And round and round we go. It’s faulty logic.
Nature produces people who by your own definition are neither male or female. It is you who decided there are exactly two sexes. Nature doesn’t care about definitions that humans apply to try to shoehorn things into categories, it just does its own thing.
The goal posts didn’t move. Fungi don’t have more than 2 sexes, they have more than 2 mating types. Fungi don’t even have a sex. This was clearly explained in my post and backed up with facts. Here is another article explaining how you’re wrong about fungi, with a dozen scientific and biology sources:
No person has ever produced both gametes, and hilariously your own link confirms this.
No one has ever been both sexes or neither. No one. Ever. In the history of the world, out of billions of people. Not a single one. Your reading and comprehension skills are absolutely diabolical, that’s the biggest takeaway from all of this.
Also an aside - Wikipedia is not a trusted source.
Nope. It’s far more complicated than just two sexes, and the more it is studied, the more complicated it turns out to be. The notion of two distinct sexes is purely a human construct and real life is not like that.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kT0HJkr1jj4&pp=ygUYYmlvbG9naWNhbCBzZXggZXhwbGFpbmVk
100000% incorrect.
Name a third sex. Name a third sex that exists in any creature on earth. There has been nothing learned that has added any complication to sex since sex was “discovered”.
Large and small gamete production. Distinct sexes.
X and Y chromosomes. Distinct sexes.
What are some of these things that you think have complicated biological sex? How many sexes do you think there are?
Your link is about DSDs, and says that their existence means that “sex is a spectrum”. That’s completely wrong. Every DSD is a genetic defect that either affects a male or a female. You might be a male with an extra X chromosome that caused some birth defects like an underdeveloped penis and internal testes - but you’re still a male, one of the 2 sexes.
Saying DSDs existence means sex is a spectrum is like saying that because some people are born with birth defects where they only have 1 leg, that the number of legs that human beings have is a spectrum, or that because someone was born with 12 fingers it means that humans don’t have 10 fingers, but their number of fingers is on a spectrum.
You can see how obviously wrong and silly that is, can’t you?
You can rant and rave about it and call me names, but you can’t change reality, no matter how much you hate it. Nature and biology simply does not care what you think.
Fungi are an example of organisms that don’t just have two sexes. Sorry to break it to you. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mating_in_fungi
You didn’t just use fungi to try to prove that there are more than 2 sexes, did you? Surely not….lol
What is the name of a sex other than male and female?
Oh the irony. You’re literally denying science and biology because you want to believe that men can be women whenever they want to just by saying they’re women.
As you said, nature and biology do not care what you think. Nature and biology created 2 sexes and 2 only.
Also I didn’t once “call you names”, not sure where you got that from……
Also dismissing posts that disagree with you as “ranting and raving” despite having no resemblance at all to ranting and raving is a terrible and amateur debating/discussing/arguing stunt.
Fungi. Fungi have complicated biological sex and a Schizophyllum commune has around 23,000 sexes. You asked. I answered. Since you just dismiss any facts you don’t like there’s no point talking to you. As I said, you can believe what you want, but that doesn’t change reality. Try doing some reading rather than assuming you know everything and making a fool of yourself with your uninformed over-confidence.
https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/why-this-fungus-has-over-20-000-sexes
So your entire argument is “fungi”? So, so much wrong with that lol.
Saying that fungi even have a sex is dumb. Fungi “mate” by their cells just fusing together when they touch another fungi. It doesn’t have a “sex”, doesn’t have a “gender”.
The biggest issue with your “fungi” point, however, is that fungi aren’t human beings. They’re not even animals. How they reproduce, or even how many “sexes” (if you insist that’s what it is in fungus) they have has zero effect on species that do only have 2 sexes. It’s like saying that because plants can photosynthesise sunlight, humans can too.
I am only too happy and willing to listen to “facts” that I don’t “like”, and I’ll happily have a back and forth and explain my reasons why I disagree - like I have in every post so far. You’re not presenting facts though. You’re using a completely different species as your example, while completely misunderstanding what you’re presenting.
Unless you can name (and produce scientific/biological evidence of) a third sex in human beings (or even animals if you want), one that produces a third type of gamete, one that has chromosomes other than a combination of X and Y, then you’re wrong and have been severely mislead and duped.
Fungi aren’t human beings. Even the idea that fungi can have a “gender identity” or a biological sex is absurd.
https://academic.oup.com/icb/article/63/4/922/7176054
There’s a sonic boom coming from those goalposts because they are moving so fast. You asked for an example of something in nature having more than 2 sexes because you originally said that there are only 2 sexes in the natural world.
But anyway, let’s change your requirement and make the definition of sex being only applicable to organisms that only produce one set of gametes.
By that definition, there are people who do not have a sex because their body produces both types. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovotesticular_syndrome
But wait! It’s a disorder, so it doesn’t count, right? Ask yourself why it is a disorder. The reason is that humans have decided that there are only two sexes. It’s circular reasoning. There are two sexes, so when someone comes along who is neither or both, they don’t count because they should be one or the other. Why should they be one or the other? Because there are two sexes. And round and round we go. It’s faulty logic.
Nature produces people who by your own definition are neither male or female. It is you who decided there are exactly two sexes. Nature doesn’t care about definitions that humans apply to try to shoehorn things into categories, it just does its own thing.
The goal posts didn’t move. Fungi don’t have more than 2 sexes, they have more than 2 mating types. Fungi don’t even have a sex. This was clearly explained in my post and backed up with facts. Here is another article explaining how you’re wrong about fungi, with a dozen scientific and biology sources:
https://www.theparadoxinstitute.com/watch/do-fungi-have-thousands-of-sexes
No person has ever produced both gametes, and hilariously your own link confirms this.
No one has ever been both sexes or neither. No one. Ever. In the history of the world, out of billions of people. Not a single one. Your reading and comprehension skills are absolutely diabolical, that’s the biggest takeaway from all of this.
Also an aside - Wikipedia is not a trusted source.