What are some of these things that you think have complicated biological sex? How many sexes do you think there are?
Fungi. Fungi have complicated biological sex and a Schizophyllum commune has around 23,000 sexes. You asked. I answered. Since you just dismiss any facts you don’t like there’s no point talking to you. As I said, you can believe what you want, but that doesn’t change reality. Try doing some reading rather than assuming you know everything and making a fool of yourself with your uninformed over-confidence.
So your entire argument is “fungi”? So, so much wrong with that lol.
Saying that fungi even have a sex is dumb. Fungi “mate” by their cells just fusing together when they touch another fungi. It doesn’t have a “sex”, doesn’t have a “gender”.
The biggest issue with your “fungi” point, however, is that fungi aren’t human beings. They’re not even animals. How they reproduce, or even how many “sexes” (if you insist that’s what it is in fungus) they have has zero effect on species that do only have 2 sexes. It’s like saying that because plants can photosynthesise sunlight, humans can too.
I am only too happy and willing to listen to “facts” that I don’t “like”, and I’ll happily have a back and forth and explain my reasons why I disagree - like I have in every post so far. You’re not presenting facts though. You’re using a completely different species as your example, while completely misunderstanding what you’re presenting.
Unless you can name (and produce scientific/biological evidence of) a third sex in human beings (or even animals if you want), one that produces a third type of gamete, one that has chromosomes other than a combination of X and Y, then you’re wrong and have been severely mislead and duped.
Fungi aren’t human beings. Even the idea that fungi can have a “gender identity” or a biological sex is absurd.
in fungi there are no biological sexes, because even in anisogamous species, individuals are hermaphroditic and produce both gamete types. For this reason, the term mating types is preferred over sexes, and, thus defined, only individuals of differing mating types can mate
There’s a sonic boom coming from those goalposts because they are moving so fast. You asked for an example of something in nature having more than 2 sexes because you originally said that there are only 2 sexes in the natural world.
But anyway, let’s change your requirement and make the definition of sex being only applicable to organisms that only produce one set of gametes.
But wait! It’s a disorder, so it doesn’t count, right? Ask yourself why it is a disorder. The reason is that humans have decided that there are only two sexes. It’s circular reasoning. There are two sexes, so when someone comes along who is neither or both, they don’t count because they should be one or the other. Why should they be one or the other? Because there are two sexes. And round and round we go. It’s faulty logic.
Nature produces people who by your own definition are neither male or female. It is you who decided there are exactly two sexes. Nature doesn’t care about definitions that humans apply to try to shoehorn things into categories, it just does its own thing.
Fungi. Fungi have complicated biological sex and a Schizophyllum commune has around 23,000 sexes. You asked. I answered. Since you just dismiss any facts you don’t like there’s no point talking to you. As I said, you can believe what you want, but that doesn’t change reality. Try doing some reading rather than assuming you know everything and making a fool of yourself with your uninformed over-confidence.
https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/why-this-fungus-has-over-20-000-sexes
So your entire argument is “fungi”? So, so much wrong with that lol.
Saying that fungi even have a sex is dumb. Fungi “mate” by their cells just fusing together when they touch another fungi. It doesn’t have a “sex”, doesn’t have a “gender”.
The biggest issue with your “fungi” point, however, is that fungi aren’t human beings. They’re not even animals. How they reproduce, or even how many “sexes” (if you insist that’s what it is in fungus) they have has zero effect on species that do only have 2 sexes. It’s like saying that because plants can photosynthesise sunlight, humans can too.
I am only too happy and willing to listen to “facts” that I don’t “like”, and I’ll happily have a back and forth and explain my reasons why I disagree - like I have in every post so far. You’re not presenting facts though. You’re using a completely different species as your example, while completely misunderstanding what you’re presenting.
Unless you can name (and produce scientific/biological evidence of) a third sex in human beings (or even animals if you want), one that produces a third type of gamete, one that has chromosomes other than a combination of X and Y, then you’re wrong and have been severely mislead and duped.
Fungi aren’t human beings. Even the idea that fungi can have a “gender identity” or a biological sex is absurd.
https://academic.oup.com/icb/article/63/4/922/7176054
There’s a sonic boom coming from those goalposts because they are moving so fast. You asked for an example of something in nature having more than 2 sexes because you originally said that there are only 2 sexes in the natural world.
But anyway, let’s change your requirement and make the definition of sex being only applicable to organisms that only produce one set of gametes.
By that definition, there are people who do not have a sex because their body produces both types. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovotesticular_syndrome
But wait! It’s a disorder, so it doesn’t count, right? Ask yourself why it is a disorder. The reason is that humans have decided that there are only two sexes. It’s circular reasoning. There are two sexes, so when someone comes along who is neither or both, they don’t count because they should be one or the other. Why should they be one or the other? Because there are two sexes. And round and round we go. It’s faulty logic.
Nature produces people who by your own definition are neither male or female. It is you who decided there are exactly two sexes. Nature doesn’t care about definitions that humans apply to try to shoehorn things into categories, it just does its own thing.