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    Your country is in dire straights when schools are doing mandatory drug testing of their students.

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      The US does basically no regulation on “troubled teen” schools. Parents can sign a contract with a school which allows staff to physically assault their kids. There is no recourse. (Fun story - trying to get the state to address sexual abuse at one of these schools can net you a restraining order 😊)

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        A parent can sign a paper voiding the rights for their child?

        Parents can sign a contract with a school which allows staff to physically assault their kids.

        How can this be legal, even with a paper with a name on it?

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          Children in the US are basically the property of their parents.

          Parents can deny their children an education (essentially unsupervised homeschool is entirely legal in many states), refuse to vaccinate, refuse medical treatment, etc.

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          Closest we had in public school in Kentucky was a form sent home at the beginning of each year that your parents would sign, stating whether or not the school was allowed to use “corporal punishment” (aka spanking or paddling) on you.

          But yeah, parents in some (all?) states in the USA have wide latitude over their kids in ways I don’t agree with.

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            The worst that I ever had to put up with was a teacher that liked it through pieces of chalk its people who were talking in class, and he aimed to miss.

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        Can confirm at least the one I know about they’d literally do a running tackle on you and put you in a headlock. Mind you these were middle schoolers some with actual mental issues.

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      Late 90s, early 00s, my school didn’t even have security. Two pupils were in charge of keeping track who came to the school and would direct visitors. Some teachers would send them to the nearby store to pick up their groceries. It was on rotation and they didn’t attend classes that day. The word “drug” was associated with medicine. We used slippers to hit each other with. What a different world, now that I think about it.

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        my school didn’t even have security

        Huh? That’s supposed to be special?

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          Im about the same age. We got a student resource officer my sophomore year. That was after a football player KOed the Vice principal. BUT he knocked him out because he was punching an honor role student in the face. Over wearing a hat.

          The SRO was not there to be a disciplinarian or to ‘police children’ as he called it. In his orientation meeting, he said he was there so ‘if there are no football players to punch out an administrator gone berserk, students could come find him to do it.’

          To his credit, he spent his time being an actual resource for students, like domestic issues at home, etc. He helped one of my friends on her path to becoming an emancipated minor, and helped another one get into a rehab program and vouched for him in court and kept him out of ‘the system’

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          I graduated in 04 but went to a lot of different schools, and one of the bigger ones had metal detectors and sometimes a violent (edit: hahaha violent was supposed to be “cop”, what a wild autocorrect from my fat fingered misspelling!) but was also built using prison blueprints so it was very easy to secure that way (one main door and two side doors that stayed locked most of the time), but the smaller schools had nothing, as it would have cost a lot more to set up there and they didn’t have the budget (multiple entryways, many ground floor windows, etc.).

          It also probably depends on the region.

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            I went to a colege with 2 main dorms; one modeled after a prison, the other after a looney bin.

            The prison one had halls that connected through bathrooms on each end. The looney bin ones were towers all connected in the basement, with a long and a short side to each floor.

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      When I was I school, they did random drug tests for those on sports teams. This is considered legal, since the participation on a team is voluntary