Why are New Zealanders being detained?
I’m going to go out on a limb and assume its predominantly Maori being detained. Because they’re brown.
Which part of ICE=lunatic racist clueless lawless unaccountable goon squad personal trump army did you miss?
I’m guessing it’s because of their cool accents and off the wall sense of humor
Kim Iversen has always been clueless. Didn’t realize Tulsi Gabbard was full of it back when she was running for office.
Some of us are absolutely aware, but powerless to make any change. I’m speaking up to family who only watch the propaganda put out by the right wing machine. But I’m mainly wonder how to sell my house, and get my ex wife and son out of here… and from there… where? What would I do for work?
Some of us are aware and outside the US and basically expect to become stateless prisoners in El Salvador the next time we try and enter the country.
I realise your post is rhetorical, but I am sprinkling some knowledge here for those that need it; fwiw, here are good places to start looking for opportunities abroad:
- https://visasponsor.jobs/api/jobs
- look for immigration short lists per country, e.g. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/skilled-worker-visa-immigration-salary-list/skilled-worker-visa-immigration-salary-list - note there’s also unskilled work included in these, notably carers on the separate (see link) healthcare list
- https://europa.eu/eures/portal/jv-se/home?lang=en
- short stays/stepping stones/staying mobile:
Maybe it may help someone…
As an American I can confirm we are absolute trash right now and we’re sealing our fate for at least a generation.
People the world over are going to spend the rest of their lives at the very least having a bad taste in their mouth when America is brought up. Things may “normalize” and regular trade agreements may resume, but trust is broken and that’s long-term.
It’s unbelievably depressing to watch from the inside. The shock of finding out that such a high percentage of your fellow citizens are stupid/racist/hateful is profound.
This. Don’t come here for the Olympics. Don’t come here for the World Cup. You could find yourself in a world of shiat for absolutely no reason at all. We’ve got some serious problems here, right now.
Add Canadians to the list.
You aren’t supposed to travel into Nazi Germany right as they are setting up the concentration camps. US tourism should be zero if you don’t have family here
The Olympics were held in Germany while Nazis were in power, it’ll be that way here too.
US tourism should be zero, and if you have family here then you should be trying to help them leave.
As a Black/Jewish guy who works with Mexicans and a few illegals from South America, I’m worried that ICE is going to show up at my workplace and arrest my coworkers.
ICE will more than likely scoop me up with my coworkers without even giving a shit that I’m a Fourth generation native.
We know shit is happening, but we have privileges now, not rights. And if you stand up for your privileges you might find yourself arrested and/or dead.
We are afraid and we feel hopeless. We are working on it though.
As a Black/Jewish
Like from Ethiopia? I’ve heard of that but it always spoken of as if its an odd off shoot
Im a Canadian citizen, but was born in Central America. I have tattoos and anti trump memes on my phone. I at least used to tel myself “at leadte if I get arrested and fucked with, the Canadian government will save me”
Then I saw a report about a white Canadian girl who was detained for weeks. And the Canadian government did nothing and let her rot till the Americans released her. So yeah I ain’t going anywhere near the U.S
What is the Canadian government supposed to do about it, invade the US?
It’s not like reasonable negotiation is getting anyone anywhere.
It’s not for me to say what the government should do, im not a diplomat. But I know that ignoring the family and saying nothing about it is not the right response. They should post a travel ban that treats the U.S like North Korea an other “do not travel to for any reason” countries. I for one am done with America and all Americans in general. World would be better off if every American got raptured tomorrow.
Maybe it’s the right thread to ask:
We will be flying from Europe to Central America in a few months.
On the flight there, we have s stop in Houston Texas.
Do I need to worry just about the transit?If I would actually need to go the USA at the moment, I would have a completely empty smartphone and laptop.
But do I need to worry about the transit?Edit: obviously I don’t plan to do anything illegal, I’m just a tourist. But after all the stories, I’m getting a bit worried
Always pay extra for direct. Been doing that since 911.
American here (lucky enough to no longer live there), the US is one of the few countries that makes you go through immigration during transit. Please make sure you have a visa if required. Safe travels friend.
Ah, for fucks sake, that sucks…
Thank you very much for warning
Yeah it’s definitely possible they make you go through security out then back in, it’s happened to me in LAX at least during an international layover that wasn’t starting nor ending in the US…
sigh
Well, shitJust booked today.
If we’d have known this, we would have taken the flight over Toronto - like our return flight
Go read about how empty Las Vegas is and all the people scratching their heads wondering why no one wants to come. Personally, I think the people who say they don’t know are lying or stupid.
lying or stupid
Partly #2, there is a pretty decent news blackout for the things they don’t want you to hear. Right-wing news shows nothing of it, left-wing news might occasionally eek something out. Museums are being strong-armed to take down historical displays that don’t mesh with the narrative they’re trying to write, real-life 1984 stuff. When there is news, it’s 50 articles about cutting health care redistricting to make the left wins impossible. There’s so much they’re pandering to the extreme right that the deterred tourists hardly makes a dent.
I’m all over the left and centrist news, and I’ve heard of a couple of German tourists and a few Canadians being held for weeks to months, but nothing from NZ. I kinda want to try to log all this stuff in a link warden to preserve it.
I just did a YouTube search for ‘Las Vegas dead’ and found a video of a guy highlighting how dead it is, and my god the comments are all to do with stuff like price gouging cited as the reason why… Someone even suggested it’s because they’re all going LA instead. Nobody is mentioning the lack of foreign tourists… Crazy stuff.
Honestly, 2 things can be true. Vegas has gouged consumers excessively in recent years. Fees for parking, increased resort fees, fewer comps for gamblers while at the same time removing anything remotely affordable like buffets. They have not helped themselves in attracting domestic visitors, and the regime isn’t helping with foreign visitors. It might get ugly out there really soon, and frankly, a lot of it was self inflicted by greedy corporations.
If it’s such a ghost town why is media reporting that there has only been about an 11% decline? It seems bigger than that…right?
That’s crazy, with the reportedly large ICE presence in LA, I’m sure domestic tourism is even down.
I’ve heard the same about the Disney parks, where people are wondering why it’s not as crowded as usual.
I didn’t even think of the ICE situation in LA but you’re right; suggesting that’s where the tourists are just shows a lack of awareness around that whole situation too, which is just as insane.
In this economy I don’t get how people spurge on Disney park. If I was a regular Disney park visitor, I would probably try another cheaper one if I could still afford the annual trip. But I will certainly not try the Disney park from another continent.
Even if it was cheaper to go to another continent, that means dealing with US customs and/or ICE on the way back for US citizens. With due process going out the window, that’s even unsafe.
I mean as non-USA tourists.
I understand, I was expanding your statement to emphasize the fact that nobody is safe crossing into the US anymore.
Crazy is getting reality from one youtube video
Just as well that it’s just you misrepresenting what was said then isn’t it.
Every time I’ve been to Vegas there have been a TON of foreigners. Same with Tahoe. I’ll be in Tahoe soon and I’m going to keep an eye open for how many less foreigners there are this time.
When they put bounties on people and they don’t bother checking for legal status much… with those bounty hunters probably trigger happy dumbasses and more and more reports of lilly white people getting caught up in this shit it is no wonder people are just not interested in being another statistic.
When they put bounties on people and they don’t bother checking for legal status much…
Just like when Stalin gave police arrest quotas and they just started arresting random people at train stations and public buildings etc.
11% down from 2024 is not “empty.”
Sorry, decimated would be more appropriate then.
A bit more than decimated, technically speaking.
We decimated the decimation!
I used to work in tourism.
It really matters which 11% are we talking about. The relatively little people attending conferences on a company dime that won’t exit their hotels and will spend exactly as budgeted are probs still there. The richer touristy people who can choose where to spend and are happy to spend on random bullshit going elsewhere hurts more. This is conjecture of course.
I’ve personally seen - in an unrelated place - tourist crowds getting bigger, hotel revenues getting slightly bigger, but everyone else in the industry like restaurants, activity places and souvenir shops, stagnating and closing as the bigger crowds were because the festivalgoers and young single people were switched out for families who pack their own lunch and primarily only sightsee and do what’s free.
Look at Venice, insane crowds from cruise ships mean zero income for the city and its inhabitants because those people eat and sleep on the ship.
It really matters which 11% is missing. If you want to know how it affects tourism, you need data from that industry, data I think the Trump admin will be reluctant to collect.
go lose 11% of your monthly income and come back and let us know how that works out for you
Bro it’s 2025. We’ve all lost at least 11% of our income/spending power post Covid
Imagine 11% more on top of that.
11% down is devastating. Why downplay it?
COVID was devastating. The strip saw their income fall 50%.
11% is bad but not “Ghost Town”
‘empty’
‘no one wants to come’
I’m sure 11% is a significant drop in any industry, but they weren’t downplaying it, just correcting an exaggeration
There was clearly a modifier in front of the word “empty.” There is a huge difference between saying, “empty” and “how empty.” Perhaps you have some sort of agenda that kept you from realizing that.
Do you live in LV? I was there just two weeks ago, I found it just as crowded and bustling as it has been in all my many other visits to the Strip. It was absolutely crowded, not dead anywhere. Maybe the difference is something more subtle that only a local would recognize. But from my perspective I noticed nothing strange.
Because they think it’s only minorities and white people are still welcome.
Yeah it sucks over here. Give somebody else your tourist dollars, spare yourself the trauma.
I watch Telemundo with subtitles in my office when I want to have something on so I can try to learn a little more Spanish. Everyday they’re talking about ICE abducting people. It’s wild. And it’s local Telemundo. This shit is fucked.
I told someone from UK recently that yeah, America is cool, I think it’s worth seeing some of the national parks, but maybe wait until this administration is out because holy FUCK.
can i borrow your rose colored glasses i need them got a feeling today is gonna be rough
Most places which fall to fascist regimes have a minimum of a few decades of bad times and thousands to millions of deaths.
American here. We have almost 3.5 more years of this horse shit. If indeed cheetoh Hitler allows another election.
The numbers for your last election don’t make sense. You are not going to have a free election for a while.
Cheetoh Hitler doesn’t get to make that decision: you do.
You might have missed some news in the last few days…
I might have. What important thing did I miss?
Remember the countries Trump called shitholes? That’s America for most sane Europeans. It’s a shithole counrty where you’ll be detained if you’ve got a meme of Jester D. Vance.
When everybody talked about “shithole countries”, practically everybody outside the United States thought of one country that deserved that label (we all thought of the same one).
Every accusation is a conversation
More true everyday
Most Americans have no idea cause most Americans are dumb as fucking rocks
Am American, can confirm. Trying to talk to my family about this results in arguments and then calling me “a sheeple” and blind, and/or blaming it on the “democrats fake news.”
Comparing them to rocks, is an insult to rocks.
People who watch fox news don’t know anything. Those of us who read the news from various sources are aware of what’s happening. Sadly, we’re a very small minority. What’s happening here is scary as hell, especially when you see so many people just acting like everything is normal, either because they actually think that or they just don’t know what else to do. I hope democracy will survive this, but the architects of its demise have been largely unimpeded so far. If I wasn’t American, there’s no fucking way I would come here with the fulvous fascist in power. Fuck trump. Fuck fascism.
