• Commiunism@beehaw.org
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    2 days ago

    That’s pretty much rainbow capitalism, which is but a small part of liberalism.

    In reality, liberalism is much worse when it comes to things like human rights, singing it’s praises and championing democracy and freedom while committing/supporting atrocities, like Bill Clinton administration’s war crimes, Tony Blair’s invasion of Iraq, EU’s anti-immigration barbarism, Trudeau’s arms sales, current Israel Palestine genocide, etc.

    It’s baffling how many regular people call themselves liberal while not seeing the contradictions/utter hypocrisy. Even on ideological level, you can’t support things such as equality and free-market economics, they directly go against one another.

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      like Bill Clinton administration’s war crimes

      Not defending liberalism, especially the Third Way perspective popularized by the Clinton’s. However, when you are talking about Clinton and war crimes are you talking about the war in Bosnia?

      Imo intervening in an ethnic cleansing is just about the only decent reason to go to war in the first place. There were plenty of war crimes going around in Bosnia, but the vast majority of them were happening to the Bosniaks, whom the Clinton administration was aiding.

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        Clinton bombed a pharmaceutical factory on the suspicion that it was being used to manufacture bioweapons. Even if it were, it was still a war crime. But it probably wasn’t, and many suspected Clinton of deliberately killing people to distract from his infidelity scandal. That’s what most people think of when they hear “Clinton war crimes.”

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Shifa_pharmaceutical_factory

        But yeah, in Bosnia, he said he was helping genocide victims, but one way he did this is bombing civilian targets.

        https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/06/30/bill-clintons-serbian-war-atrocities-exposed-in-new-indictment/

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          Clinton bombed a pharmaceutical factory on the suspicion that it was being used to manufacture bioweapons

          Ahh, yeah definitely a shitty thing to do. I don’t know if war crime is the best descriptor, more of a crime against humanity imo.

          but one way he did this is bombing civilian targets.

          This article is atrociously biased, to the point where it’s blatantly ahistorical. The attempt to “both sides” the war crimes committed by the Serbs and Bosniaks is just immoral. It would be the equivalent of equating war crimes committed by the Palestinians with the genocidal reaction of Israel.

          To my knowledge there was no intentional targeting of civilians in Kosovo, there was a refugee column that was mistakenly bombed, which NATO took responsibility for .

          I don’t really know much about this publisher, but I would be wary of any “leftist” publisher who back articles originally written for a libertarian rag.