When toilets try to save money by reducing the amount of water they use per flush, but you end up having to flush like 3 times 🤬

  • ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
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    17 hours ago

    Half as Interesting has a video about low flow toilets. When the US passed the 1992 regulation limiting the amount of water a toilet could use, manufacturers rushed to meet the regulation and their designs were terrible. That’s mostly because the quality tests they had to pass were also out of date. Testing standards eventually updated and by 2003 low flow toilets were flushing better than old models with a fraction of the water. More recent models flush even better.

    So OP’s complaint about low flow toilets hasn’t been true for 22 years.

    • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.caOP
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      15 hours ago

      My toilet is newer than that (and also I don’t live in the USA), so idk what to tell you.
      It could just be a poor toilet (I didn’t buy it), or a plumbing issue (I live in an apartment), but if I flush once then stuff comes back up, and simply using more water fixes it so i assume it’s a flow issue

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    21 hours ago

    Every house and apartment I’ve lived in since 2003 has had low-flow fixtures. Never needed more than one flush.

    • Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com
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      21 hours ago

      Me either. Well, except for the very occasional post-pizza party apocalypse.

      Have a low flow shower head too, and the only reason it sucks is because our hard water from the city leaves mineral deposits on the tiny nozzles that clog easier. But a soak in descaler and it’s back to new.

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        21 hours ago

        the only reason it sucks is because our hard water

        Same. I probably get more calcium from a glass of water than from a glass of milk lol.

        except for the very occasional

        I, too, was disregarding the very occasional “courtesy flush” lol.

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    19 hours ago

    Some low flow models are created so that you just press it to run enough water to down a piss, but hold it to unleash all the stored water to down anything more. That was the point of them, save water by fixing the obvious problem of downing a tank of water over a little urine. But unless you bought the toilet or were told, you don’t know that, and that’s where a lot of the issue comes from. Same interface as any other, different expected input and results.

    On the other hand, I once had an old toilet that did require multiple flushes. It was not a low flow, and there was nothing wrong with the toilet. Years of accumulation had restricted the plumbing like 30 feet down. Plumber eventually sorted that out.

    • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.caOP
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      Honestly this might not be low flow, it could just be poor design. Or like you said, a plumbing problem.

      Even when it doesn’t get clogged (which it often does), stuff will often come back up if I don’t flush twice. Since more water seemed to be the solution, I assumed the problem was low flow.

  • floo@retrolemmy.com
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    21 hours ago

    For almost 20 years, I’ve been using low flow toilets in all manner of places. I’ve never had a problem.

  • Moonrise2473@feddit.it
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    20 hours ago

    I watched a hai video about the topic and there are some low flow toiles capable of flushing 2 pounds of poo in one flush, maybe who sold your unit didn’t know (or pretended to don’t know) that there’s a poo flushing power for each model, sold you a bad one

          • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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            thanks for your patience, i had to look it up some jargon because i wasn’t sure. it’s a niagara flapperless toilet. tip-bucket style. rather than have a full tank all the time, there’s a bucket of full water sitting 2/3 up the tank. you turn the handle, it dumps the the bucket. the flapper gets removed. saves a shitton of water. the force of the bucket of water moves the turds. I was pleasantly surprised it actually works.

  • ccunning@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    My “low flow” toilet is enough to give Jonah flop-sweats…

    From the US, this comment feels three decades behind the times…

    • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
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      18 hours ago

      People don’t normally purchase toilets to stay on top of technology.

      The current state of the art for toilets are that they have a decent metric modeling shit and they have improved a lot in that metric. However, few people buy new toilets.

      • papalonian@lemmy.world
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        17 hours ago

        There are cheap, easily removable and attachable bidets you can get and install on any toilet. Takes literally 15 minutes and a crescent wrench, if it doesn’t come with a little tool.

      • NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com
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        The one I got off Amazon for like $25 is only slightly more difficult than replacing your toilet seat. Remove the existing toilet seat, screw this one in, put your toilet seat back on, connect to the water inlet the toilet uses. About a 30-45 minute job in total.

        There’s no electronics because it uses the water pressure to push the water through, so it’ll work even with the power out.

        Especially good for renters because it’ll be just as easy to remove and leaves no permanent change.

        You could go all out and get a more expensive one with heating and other features too, but this has worked for me. Saved me a lot in money.

    • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.caOP
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      I don’t understand how a hose would fix the issue better than flushing. They’re both using water.

      Once I get a house and can buy my own toilet, I’ma get a bidet… But I’m not fucking with the plumbing of an apartment. And I don’t see how that’d solve this specific issue.

      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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        i flush and while the flush is going i rinse the bowl to get any stains that i couldn’t pee off, so as to not have to scrub as often. all you have to do is attach a T-joint to the water line coming to the toilet, assuming it’s not those damn 7/8" fill valves (my ACE doesn’t have 7/8" T-joints). then when you move out, plug the line you remove.

  • Sergio@slrpnk.net
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    18 hours ago

    Something to try: keep a bucket of water nearby for those “difficult” flushing situations. If you really want conservation points, fill the bucket with your shower run-off.

      • XeroxCool@lemmy.world
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        17 hours ago

        The part where you effectively quoted Trump? Is that where you’re not sure if it’s satire?

        • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.caOP
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          I wasn’t sure if you were satirically saying that trump would fix the issue, or you were accusing me of being a trump voter.

          I don’t live in the USA, so neither can be true, and I’m not familiar with the quote you’re talking about. Although I’m usually pretty familiar with his shenanigans.

          I’m complaining about my actual toilet which seems to use just too little water to completely flush everything, ironically wasting water.

          • greenfire
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            14 hours ago

            sorry somehow assumed you were USian—hope your toilet situation improves!

  • MrNesser@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    I’m 100% convinced my gym didn’t connect the high flow part of the flush so you have to use the low flow