• underwire212@lemm.ee
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    Advertising is allllll subconscious. It’s not relying on your conscious choice and reasoning.

    You will forget that you saw the advertisement. Then when you go to the store and are deciding between two brands, the idea is that you will pick the brand with which you have greater familiarity with (the one you’ve seen more adverts of), since your brain interprets familiarity with trustworthiness. All of this is done subconsciously without you even noticing.

    Advertising isn’t a billion dollar per year industry for no reason. The reason being, that it works.

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      Advertising isn’t allllll subconscious, even if mere exposure can priming can be powerful. If ads were all subconscious, they wouldn’t try to get your attention and make you actually think about them. On top of that, backfire effects can overwhelm the subconscious approval, as can consciously making note of it.

      I actually want to avoid products all together when I see ads. It makes me question whether or not I need it or alternatives, and often times, I decide that I don’t. Every ad also represents the entire capitalist system to me. They remind me who the enemy is.

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    If you piss me off on a regular basis by interrupting what I’m doing with your spam, at least make it entertaining in some way.
    Don’t force some scripted talking points on every content creator, give them free reign to provide their opinion about your product.

    I would be 100x more interested in your product if I saw an objective review from somebody who I knew was being honest.

    But if they only pay people to say good things about their product, I see that as the company admitting that their product is shit, because they’re too scared to allow anyone to say it is.

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    To this day, I will never ever ever touch any Mazda products. All thanks to their dumb fucking zoom zoom advertising campaign about 20 years ago that involved their adverts playing twice during every ad break. Plus they were sponsoring shit, so it was everywhere. I feel like I still have PTSD from it. Fuck Mazda.

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      I’d say it was TV that gave you the PTSD. I bailed on TV at about 8 years old (28 years ago…) and every time I’ve been with people watching it since I was always amazed just how awful it all really was. But I guess it’s just what becomes normal if you grow up with it

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        Oh yeah it’s definitely TV. But this was before the days of Netflix and shit and before I had uncapped wifi. I don’t watch standard TV anymore either and when I do see it, same reaction as you. It’s probably a bit different from country to country but I think standard TV is mostly geared towards older people now too because most under 40 have unplugged by now.

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      I can’t speak for modern Mazdas but I got a lowest trim manual, power nothing, in the mid naughties and it was still going strong 15 years later. So for all of their marketing annoyance it was absolutely a good product.

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        You got it when they were still creating rustbuckets then. The newer ones have much stronger bodywork and don’t oxidize within 3 minutes upon seeing salted roads. Can’t speak for the long term reliability though, don’t know anyone who’s owned one for too long (only friend who owned a newish Mazda traded it in for a Volvo V90 after a few years because space)

        I am tempted by new Mazdas because they now have some real nice engines available and they don’t do the whole “everything is touch” thing because apparently they actually care about safety… BUT… I’m salty that they don’t sell the CX90 here, only the CX80. I could really use the extra space nowadays.

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        Lol yeah they seem like decent cars actually. But I made myself a promise back then to never give them a cent and I tend to stick to my principles (or at least like to think I do). It’s just a personal thing though. And also kinda funny, I think.

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    This is partly why I don’t trust Ground News. They’re putting way too much money into advertising for me to believe they’re genuinely interested in providing an unbiased factual categorization of news sources.

    I also simply don’t believe it’s possible to be unbiased, so anyone claiming to be is immediately suspect to me.

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      Is it perfect? no but it is the best way to be able to read the news from multiple POVs. They also include every single news outlet I’ve ever heard of and then some

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        I get that it offers a bunch of features that you can’t get anywhere else, but I just can’t shake the uneasy feeling that it’s all a trojan horse for something more sinister. I’m just waiting for the other shoe to drop and see it suddenly explode in controversy after someone exposes something not quite kosher going on under the surface.

        It’s just too good to be true.

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        I mean I get my news here on Lemmy and from other individuals on lotteries social media. I think awareness of local and world events no longer needs to be meditated through a news organization. As long as you don’t sit in an echo chamber and have some level of literacy it’s not too hard to stay up to date.

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      They also reinforce seeing liberal and conservative as opposites. The only good service they have is showing who sponsors which sources. However, the whole “blindspot” system seems designed as a both-sidesism

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        Exactly! It’s really disheartening to me to see so many youtubers who are otherwise insightful be so uncritically supportive of Ground News because they “like what they’re trying to do.”

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    Magic spoon got me. I was looking for a protein cereal so I was excited for a podcast I listen to advertise one. All the flavors are the same gross base that cut up your mouth with different artificial powders put on top. Of course I start seeing a bunch ads more after

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    If they have the budget to mass advertise then that means they’re earning probably 100x that, most likely directly from users.

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      Or they’re burning through their VC funds because they’re out of ideas and have no customers.

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      I heard about it, downloaded it, tried it. Then i googled for other coupons and found a better one. Deleted Honey right away for being shit.

      Im surprised so many people would just trust the app immediately and not try to see if there were better coupons.

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        Maybe I’m just bad or slow at queries but I almost never found working coupons when I’m ready to purchase. When I used to have honey (when it somewhat worked), I got a few token percentage off compared to entering codes that were expired or otherwise no longer valid.

        Granted, once Honey moved to a rewards based model I dipped out since something didn’t sit right with me about it.

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          Yeah same experience here. Googling for a code at best gets me the promotions already happening on the retail site with the code sites affiliate link.

          It may be because when I’m looking for codes I’m already buying high price low margin products like TVs.

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        Same thing here. I’ve been using “everything” for long enough to know not to trust… anything… an app is going to get the best discount available for me? Yeah, we’ll just see about that. I just wasnt ever going to not search for coupons myself, so I removed it.

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        I tried it but never got coupons, so I made 10$ in honey gold, then I forgot about it until I saw the controversy

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        Most people are lazy, or don’t even come up with the idea to do a web search. When they do, most non-techies don’t know or struggle to write an effective search query

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    This is the rule I live by when being forced fed ads. I will actively go out of my way to not use whatever product it is.

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    Huh, this company is spending a lot of money on marketing. Guess I’ll buy from a company doing less marketing so I’ll get it cheaper.

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      Or that is so good, they don’t need anything more than word of mouth. And I mean real word of mouth, not the fake influencer shilling that relies on parasocial relationships “word of mouth”

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    Only advertised product I’ve ever spent money on is NordVPN which is fine for my use case - avoiding geoblocking a couple of times a week. Probably switching to Mullvad soon though, because American companies can eat dirt.

    But yeah, honey was always super sus. If something seems “too good to be true”, maybe it is.

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      Funny to me because I can’t recall the last time I ever saw a Mullvad ad but they had their little mole guy plastered over a bus in my (American) city. Thought it was cute and quirky because I doubt 80% of the people in my area even know what a VPN is. Better than the usual lame ads like for lawyers or health insurance.

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    I have a rule if they sponsor on multiple youtubers they are probably a scam and avoid. If i find the service interesting i search up alternatives that spend their money better

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      yeah, the only good sponsorships are the sponsors of small niche channels, like a lens sponsorship on a photography channel.

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      also also, firefox on android supports extensions. never go anywhere without ublock origin and sponsorblock.

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        If you’re on android I’d recommend viewing youtube videos through newpipe as it strips out everything except for the stream. Only downside is that it doesn’t have replacement functionality for sponsorblock.

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          I’ve tried newpipe, but it won’t work if my phone is connected to wifi, no idea why.

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          Newpipe > revanced IMO. Newpipe also supports a few other media streaming services outside of youtube, and when stuff breaks due to google interference they usually have a fix out within a few days.

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            The problem with NewPipe is that it breaks the YouTube experience. ReVanced lets you use your YouTube account to get all the normal YouTube functionality such as liking and commenting, viewing your subscriptions (including syncing if you make a change) and, most importantly, syncing playlists such as the Watch Later playlist.

            I’ve only had ReVanced break once since I started using it, way back when Vanced first died. So I don’t consider the “stuff breaks” element to be especially relevant.

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              Yeah that’s a fair point. I use newpipe specifically to get away from the youtube experience and keep only the videos. Newpipe does let you create local playlists and subscriptions that live only in the app, which I do utilize a bit.

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            How exactly does it break for you? I use vanced and then revances constantly since the day one of its existence, and don’t remember it breaking once.

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            Huh, weird. I think I’ve only had to reinstall it once since Vanced died and I switched to ReVanced.

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            Do you have microg integration set up? Usually the root cause of issues when something there is broken from my experience, assuming you have stable from the official revanced manager.

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            I’ve used it for couple years and it has never broken so I don’t understand what you are doing with it

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      I have seen Proton as a sponsor once or twice and I don’t have any complains about the products they are selling.

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        The “privacy” service that gobbled on orange fascist knob from Switzerland? With their public accounts?

        Yeah. Nothing sketchy behind that choice.

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          I truly don’t know how someone could continue to trust a privacy focused company that was explicitly pro any leader.

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          Them being an absolute moron hasn’t affected the product for me or my experience with the rest of the company.

          If I would stop using any and old company that had some bullshit owner, some bullshit thing done in the past or done currently I would basically have nothing I can use. The moment the opionins of him will start to impact the product I am out, but considering there is a foundation above the company which means he has a limited amount of impact I will wait and see before I act.

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            The problem with this logic is that it can be impacting the product without you being aware, especially security and disclosure aspects.

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              Luckly for us there are laws and other security measures in place to help prevent it. At least Proton is under a loop now, other options are probably just as bad but we don’t know about it

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                there are laws

                Ahahah. Oh wait, you’re serious, let me laugh even harder