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Come one come all to the Lemmy-verse! It’s nice and cozy here, we do have some “bad parts of town” but you can do an instance block and not deal with them lol
For your memes we have !memes@lemmy.world if you like sciency posts mander.xyz has some excellent communities (communities=subreddits) like !science@mander.xyz and !biology@mander.xyz and for a meme science combo theres always the fantastic !science_memes@mander.xyz
You can also drop a shit(post) off at !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world or hang out at !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone (though you do have to post before you leave that one!)
There’s much more around as well!
Obligatory, fuck Spez
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From what I can tell, this tankie stuff is bullshit. In the years I’ve been here, I’ve seen close to zero ‘tankie’ content from any of these supposedly tankie instances. There’s like maybe one or two people on those instances who might fit the description if you search for them. Meanwhile, literally every day there are posts spitting on these supposed tankie instances. (And actually, it’s again a very small number of people complaining - but they put their crap into cute memes to get traction).
I don’t like the idea of shouting slurs at entire instances. In my view, if you hate those instances so much - just block them. Problem solved. No need to spew hate all over lemmy.
You have to remember, the people making the tankie accusations consider anyone to the left of Joe Biden a tankie.
Tankies aren’t communists.
Yeah, at this point the word “tankie” is used so liberaly that communists are just one type of “tankie”.
Karl Marx said communism is stateless. Tankies are named after their support of soviet tanks to put down revolutions. That’s the opposite of stateless.
Lol, well I guess there are no communists then, because not even Marx himself, as nonone has achieved statelessness.
Also, what a stupid image, it’s literally just horseshoe theory with “I’m on of the good leftists” liberal boot licking thrown in
Well except for the Catalonians, the Haudenosaunee, the Australians, the Polynesians…
Catalan made their own “state” that’s not stateless. Humans need societies and structures, we aren’t tigers, we’re weak hairless monkeys.
This seems like an odd message considering that Lemmy, as software, is being praised here; and what is being criticized are instances wherein the admins enforce apologism for authoritarian regimes.
everone knows you join instances based on how funny the @ is, duh
And you picked that?
.rar isn’t a domain yet is it? Lol
it’s funny that .zip is a domain, yes. I can’t imagine it gets used for anything other than email scams
Unless some of those redditors ARE tankies
Yes, welcome redditors to .world, which is trying to model itself as reddit 2.
It’s a bit like OSRS for reddit - an attempt to revive the reddit we all have very rose-tinted memories of. Unfortunately we seem to have forgotten about the the rampant casual misogyny, tribalism, moderator political infighting, that the 2007 XP rates were actually abysmally implemented and desperately needed retooling (and that deeply awkward “ron paul” phase reddit went through…)
I see calling people “tankies” is the “woke” of the Fediverse.
Yeah I’m a bit lost on why someone’s instance automatically = their entire identity. Wouldn’t that means 1) technically we are all tankies on a tankie platform and 2) I need to start learning Finnish?
Yeah I randomly picked an instance when I created this account around a year ago, and these days I see people comment things like “lol of course you’re from .ml”.
I don’t even know what’s the difference between instances. And it’s not like we were given a whole lot of explanation when picking one.
Lemmy.ml admins remove content critical of the CCP, and similar things. The admins of most other instances don’t do that shit.
Grad is much the same, while Hexbear is just 4chan for Stalinists.
No I know, but I’m not interacting with the admins of .ml, and I haven’t really seen anything from the average .ml user that isn’t your run of the mill leftist talking points I see all over Lemmy. They’re not censoring or banning me from posting Winnie the Pooh, you know? Your experience may be different.
I have no idea what grad and hexbear are, I’ve never seen those instances and I’m assuming my admin already defederated from them. They’re pretty reasonable in that regard.
Maybe I should learn Finnish in their honour…
They’re not censoring or banning me from posting Winnie the Pooh, you know? Your experience may be different.
I mean, unless you frequent .ml communities, they can’t censor or ban you.
That’s the thing though. Those .ml communities end up quietly curated to curb any criticism of the admins’ favorite authoritarians. Highlighting this fact is necessary, and participating in .ml communities is undesirable at best; those who still wish to do so should at least be informed as to what goes on.
Oh I see what you’re saying. I agree about the communities, but I was speaking more about the users from .ml getting blasted in communities outside .ml simply because they are from that instance (like in this thread).
If the users from there are participating in communities from outside that instance and following the rules, why does it matter if they’re from .ml? They’re not in the censored community, we’re not in the censored community, who cares what the .ml admin are doing?
If the users from there are participating in communities from outside that instance and following the rules, why does it matter if they’re from .ml?
Communities shape how people think and act. Normalizing bootlicking for authoritarian regimes causes those who participate in those communities to feel and reproduce that normalization. Not only that, but when grad and Hexbear were defederated by many instances, many users on Grad and Hexbear created accounts on .ml for the explicit purpose of continuing the authoritarian apologia they so enjoyed in the exact places that told them they weren’t welcomed. At some point, pattern recognition sets in, and it’s not inherently wrong for it to do so.
I don’t think every .ml user is an authoritarian. But if I see someone making authoritarian apologia, I’d say a good 4/5s of the time, it’s someone from .ml.
Communities shape how people think and act. Normalizing bootlicking for authoritarian regimes causes those who participate in those communities to feel and reproduce that normalization.
Sure, but only if they’re solely in those echo chambers, which if they’re posting in .world, they clearly aren’t. And any ones who do are told off because of the content of their posts, not their home servers.
I see quite a few inflammatory posters from .world and .ee (especially of the American exceptionalism, anti-Palestine, and more recently anti-Canadian (🤭) varieties) but I don’t automatically assume every single person on those servers hold those values. In fact, I think 9/10 comments I see you post specifically, PugJ, I agree with.
I had no idea about the Hexbear/lemmygrad lore though, I’ll definitely keep that in mind going forward.
Nah, they’re authoritarian genocide deniers.
The opposite of woke.
What? Those are the three instant where I see the least denial of the US and Israels genocide, and the least bootlicking of western authoritarianism.
The opposite of western bootlicking is not Russian bootlicking.
It’s 2025, everyone is both doing genocide and is denying genocide all of the time. Unfortunately that word no longer has any meaning.
It does have a definition though and there is still power in that.
Yes everyone is aware of this power so are using the word as a propaganda tool to further their causes. And everyone is aware that the word is being used as a propaganda tool.
The scary part is that by watering down the meaning of the word, it’s made actual genocide more likely. If everyone is constantly being accused of genocide all of the time then no one will know when an actual genocide is happening.
The only person watering down the word here is you?
Again, nobody’s talking about the porn instance.
But we all know about it
I posted my boobs & some people were friendly to me. It’s nice here! Surprisingly wholesome.
We know everyone immediately followed the profile to see the boobs, don’t we?
(They are nice btw)
No mention of dbzer0. com anywhere in the meme or text? To any newcomers, if you wouldn’t download a car then you don’t need to know about that instance.
Lol I made the original meme and text, I kinda just brain dumped the instances from the top of my head, the hope was others would chime in with their fav instances/comms and add to the list
It must be the chunk of land they’re sitting on. Just can’t see it because the full text can’t be read in its entirety from that close up.
Lemmy.ml is the original instance and the dev instance. I joined it because there was literally no alternative at the time. It’s pretty annoying being called a tankie left and right because of this
Yeah, that’s pretty unfair. You shouldn’t have to put up with this; and it definitely is not your fault, or the fault of the instance. This “tankie instance” thing is bullshit.
It’s also because the devs are communists. Let’s not skip that part lol
Communist is not the same as tankie. Lemmy probably wouldn’t exist if the devs weren’t communist
I mean, they’re only not the same because “tankie” is so broadly defined that it also includes anarchists and non-western liberals.
wHY DoN’t yOu chAnGe InSTanCe?
Same, looks like we are shady now.
everyone keeps telling me my instance is full of tankies but im not seeing it. when i made my account this was the only instance.
also, why the fuck would we want more redditors here?
I think there’s an instance on .ml that has everyone in a tizzy. I myself haven’t had any issue with .ml specifically. Lot of ‘mens rights’ bigots from .ee though, not sure why that is.
“An instance on .ml” you mean a community? Or you mean another domain name using the .ml top level domain? If it’s the latter, you probably mean lemmygrad.ml. If it’s the former, there are already quite a few communities on there which have a lot of subscribers and often appear in the “all” feed. Normally those are fine. But every now and then you’ll see some tankie comment and like 99% of the time it’s some user from that instance.
To be honest, I don’t pay a lot of attention other than to notice the ‘.ml’ and the vast majority of the time, I don’t notice any specific tanki-ness to people from there.
.ee on the other hand has been… (checks) yeah, all but one of my blocks in the last month.
that is actually the reason I chose lemmy.ml direct support from the developers is cool
Same as a fellow code enthusiast, the dev instance seemed like a good choice. But no, do not pass go, straight to tankie jail apparently.
Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the tankie triad?
It’s pretty insane that choosing the default instance is seen as being indicative of your politics
Looks at the Lemmy devs
They deny genocide and are transphobic
.me laughs
The tankie triad
making a bunch of forums seem so dark and mysterious
have you considered that some of us are just silly goofy girls
I will never understand how you would defend an instance that is not only deep in genocide denial and praise of authoritarian regimes.
But also one whose head admin (and main Lemmy dev unfortunately) is a transphobe
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First time reading the original statement, and this actually makes me less concerned. It isn’t secret knowledge that the capital has worked hard to reframe being left from wanting anti capitalist economic policies to mostly social issues without consequence such as inclusive language and skin color quotas. None of that addresses the real problem that is the capitalist system driving us all into servitude and the planet towards collapse.
This is also why the left is generally not considered attractive to the average voter. They don’t care about any of that social crap, they care about their own situation and how to improve that. And while inclusivity is important and a just cause it is entirely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things and not a valid agenda to run a political movement on.
The lives of every marginalized group of people will improve a hundred times more by toppling the system that keeps us all oppressed and unhappy, than by having the government use their preferred pronouns when letting them know they have to make do with less, again.
Transphobia is only unacceptable when it’s SHITLIBS who can be accused of it.
I am transfixed by their new obsession with women’s sports.
Remember when the WNBA was a punchline on Futurama? Where were these assholes then?
Those assholes don’t like women’s sports, they only use it as a stick to hurt those who are different from them.
It’s way more fun to pretend hexbear and .ml are super dark and scary than to admit what they mostly actually are: leftist memes and shit posting.
Notice Beehaw’s not on the “good” list anymore? Wonder why they’re not on there…
Notice Beehaw’s not on the “good” list anymore? Wonder why they’re not on there…
As far as I understood at the time, Beehaw cut themselves off from just about everyone else in the fediverse. If they want to make that choice I respect their position but its sending the message they’re not interested in interacting with most others. If someone tells you to go away and they don’t want to talk to you, I’m not going to chase them and try and change their mind. I’m going to let them go do whatever they want to do and I’ll do my own thing with most everyone else.
I think Beehaw isn’t on the good list here because the account that shared the meme is on Lemmy World which isn’t federated with Beehaw.
So it’s a lack of knowledge of the users that left it off not any nefarious intent.
But that’s my 2 cents.
I thought Beehaw defederated from everyone else during the first mass reddit migration in 2023. It’s not surprising not a lot of people know about them.
I still get Beehaw posts on my instance too. They’re nice people.
Ya know what, I just looked at their instance page for the first time and their community rules show that they appear to have their head on straight and are setting good policy. I’ll have to try to get an account there and see what I’ve been missing.
They really are a community of nice people trying to protect their peace, as far as I’ve seen. They just defederated from instances with open registration due to influx of trolls, and a lot of users from those groups got offended over it. It was minor drama, but nothing offensive. It’s a bit sad that they’re still being vilified over it.
Not us 🫶 I enjoy the Beehaw communities I subscribe to
Beehaw is like the Elks Lodge of the Lemmyverse. From the outside they look exclusive, mysterious, and enticing. Inside, there’s just a few drunk guys singing karaoke.
At least that’s my assumption. They wouldn’t let me in because I refused to write a paragraph about why I wanted to join an instance that I knew virtually nothing about. Even the Elks Lodge wasn’t that picky.
This is why I’m glad I’m on lemme.ee, and I have the option to choose for myself as they don’t really defederate any of the main instances.
As far as it goes, I’m just here for good memes and good conversation. Anytime someone goes into tankie territory, I just go to another thread. Live and let live, even if I disagree (until someone verges into nazi territory).
I knew of Beehaw, but they got left off mostly because last I heard they were extremely selective on who they federated with.
My personal opinion of Beehaw is, I have none unlike The Tankie Triad where i’ve experienced and seen the games they play. Then again, I think BH does fed with them, so if they’re so selective to do that…
It’s way more fun to pretend hexbear and .ml are super dark and scary than to admit what they mostly actually are: leftist memes and shit posting.
“Ha ha, we’re just having a little bit of fun denying the Uyghur genocide, praising North Korea, and saying Ukrainians deserve to be massacred 😊”
And yet, on other Lemmy instances like world, people will fight to the bitter end defending Joe Biden’s policy of enabling Israel. And if you dare suggest Kamala Harris was also going to keep supporting Israel, you’ll be crucified lmao.
I guess genocide is okay if it’s backed by a Western power (but only if a democrat is in charge).
Nah, fuck Biden’s and Harris’s handling of the situation. It was a disaster and needs to be called what it is.
But I think what you are suggesting is a disingenuous interpretation of what most people were saying during the US election. No one was suggesting that Biden/Harris were good for Palestine. Only that Trump would be much, much worse. And I feel like the events of the past few weeks have validated that fear, however horrifying that is to type out.
You’re not looking forward to a beachfront vacation, sleeping over the skeletons of dead little kids that we all helped pay to murder? What’s wrong with you?
I personally have seen nobody defending Biden’s enabling of Israel, I have seen a bunch of people choosing the lesser of two evils and getting chastised over it as if there was a magical third option (abstaining just enables trump stfu)
Yeah he’s full of it. Or maybe by “people” he means like, two people. lol
have you considered that some of us are just silly goofy girls
Who play apologist for genocide and fascism.
“Brother!”
Remember, it’s not authoritarian or bootlicking if it’s Israel or the US
ah yes, thats right! there are only two sides, western fascism, or eastern.
That is indeed the .world attitude.
hey i just wanted to destroy capitalism 🥺 👉👈
Yea who cares about those little human rights violations and genocides the CCP does along the way, just sweep those under the rug!
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I’ve met people in reality who feel the same way as you, and I wanted to ask you something:
Wonder if our media that is largely Republican controlled and owned by Western billionaires could maybe have some anti-CCP bias
Why does that mean that China is good? Like I understand that specific things western media says could be wrong, but we have a hell of a lot of proof about what they’ve done. So what I don’t get is, sure media is owned by billionaires and corrupt, but why does that mean that the exact opposite is what’s true? Stalin/Nazi Germany and Hitler/Germany hated each other, constantly lied about each other, but that never meant that either of them were ‘good.’ So why does it apply here?
Stalin/Nazi Germany and Hitler/Germany hated each other, constantly lied about each other, but that never meant that either of them were ‘good.’
I mean, before Methler’s Operation Barbarossa, they were happily dividing the world up between themselves.
Switch “Republican” with “coastal elite” and “anti-CCP” with “anti-conservative” and it’s the same old, tired bullshit.
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It does, but you’re really tripping if you don’t think the CCP commits egregious human rights abuses.
Oh hey this looks familiar LMAO
Before the tankies come in here
Their calls of unity and accusations of division are false, they’re Authoritarian “leftists” who deny anything bad of the CCP, Russia and NK from human rights violations to genocides and any evidence of said acts is nothing but “CIA/Western propaganda”
Tankies are not socialists, they’re not communists, they’re authoritarians, full stop.
Communism is a flavor of authoritarianism. You can’t tell me that the USSR valued freedom.
USSR (and China, too) didn’t even have communism. It had socialism and strived for the communist world in the future.
Stalinists et co are not the totality of communist thought, despite how much as they tried to portray themselves as such.
Okay, what about Mao?
Mao is a Maoist, and the CCP claim to be ‘the sole heir and successor to Joseph Stalin concerning the correct interpretation of Marxism–Leninism and the ideological leader of world communism,’ and I think (hope?) we can agree that Stalinism is not communism.
Mao only split from the Sovs because the Sovs became slightly less Stalinist under Khrushchev.
You’re a Right-wing nut job, your opinion afaic, is worth even less than the tankies. And that should tell you a lot, but I know it won’t.
It’s lemmy, I honestly don’t really care what some random guy calls me.
What’s it like having even /c/conservative think you’re a right-wing nutjob? Do you think the entire world is a leftist conspiracy out to get you, personally?
Most conservative is just random Lemmy users finding it.
And no. Lemmy is a itty bitty part of the world. Why would I think it’s a world-wide leftist conspiracy?
And no. Lemmy is a itty bitty part of the world. Why would I think it’s a world-wide leftist conspiracy?
Oh when you said “No wonder the left is upset, their propaganda department is being shut down.” over USAID being ransacked by fascists, I just assumed you thought the entire world was a leftist conspiracy.
Oh no he’s not calling you a rightwing nutjob so you know, its so the rest of us can casually ignore you. Your feelings on this matter are inconsequential.
Only in the ways it’s been implemented at the state level so far. Which, admittedly, may be the only way it can.
Everyone knows those rules don’t apply when youre dunking on the instances with opinions outside of the US state department’s approved overton window.
Ah yes, wise words UnderpantsWeevil, .worlds very own resident tankie
