• T156@lemmy.world
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    You say that, but Star Trek Earth 2025 - 2050 didn’t exactly go great, even if they managed to sort things out in the end. It took them at least a whole century to really clean up their act.

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    I was just thinking about how when this episode aired, it was only 20ish years after WW2 ended.

    This was recent history to everyone, and they were already making social commentary about it here, as well as the episode where they go to the literal Nazi planet.

    9/11 is further in the past for us than WW2 was for them.

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    Where can I sign up for the Eugenics shots?

    If I’m going to live in an authoritarian hellscape I’m doing it with genetic enhancements or not at all.

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    People, it is with great sadness I come to the conclusion that we are the mirror universe.

    If Vulcans landed, we would absolutely board their ship and take everything we can.

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      Kill them, board the ship, take everything we can, attempt to reverse engineer it, find tech that could make life instantly better for over 90% of the population to end world hunger and instantly cure countless diseases injuries and ailments…but instead they patent it and hold back 100 years of progress while some people get obscenely rich

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        If you believe some of the UAP testimony, the government has actual craft and biological remains.

        It’s difficult to get excited about though because our timeline seems too boring and dumb for that.

        …and if it IS true, I think you are correct about how a huge benefit to humanity would be held back. But just as likely as the profit motive would be turning it into weapons rather than using it to revolutionize society.

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          No they don’t.

          I’m sorry, aliens are flying here from light years away or other dimensions in the most advanced space craft known to exist, only to crash and get caught almost immediately?

          I’m sure they helped build the pyramids too

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            I didn’t say I believed them, lol.

            But let’s be real here. These hypothetical aliens share the same timeline as us. They would absolutely be the ones to master FTL travel just in time to drive into a rock on the other end.

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            Going interstellar distances just to crash into a tiny rock would be some impressive fuckery. Murphy couldn’t even envision that.

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            That specific mirror skeletor version which goes back to where he comes from is good though, because the mirror swaps “peoples” intentions.

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          There’s a revival group out there that keeps rules updated. I was very excited to use my old cards, except that they’re all in the first series of expansion packs, and those are considered badly balanced and taken out of the game completely.

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            I last played at Dragon Con in 2019. I checked the gaming area in the years since then, but haven’t seen that game available again since. 🙁

            Almost all my cards are from the original release. Are those still considered playable?

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              Afraid not. Decipher apparently had a second edition, and those are the only ones that are playable. My Future Enterprise is just cardboard.

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      We’re in a third alternate universe where we get the Bell Riots, WWIII, nuclear apocalypse, authoritarian government, uncontrolled eugenics programs, no warp engine technology and no Vulcans or alien species coming to save us from ourselves … oh yeah but the Borg arrive too.

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        But the Borg of this universe can’t communicate with eachother. The queen can send orders and the Borg can send up responses or thoughts, but the queen largely ignores non-beneficial thoughts. But because of this, there is a queen each subqueen can send communications to and receive orders from. All the way up to the “CEO queen” who does the bidding of the actual collective “board of queens”.

        The more powerful queens have simply survived longer and assimilated more, and have spawned enough queens to destroy rival colonies.

        Instead of being referred to as the “Borg Collective” they call themselves “Hardworking Individuals”.

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            According to my armchair unlicensed psychiatry, Musk would absolutely flip the “on” switch on the Borg.

            The main reason is that I think he wants to be remembered more than anything. He’s realized he won’t have time to find immortality or load himself into a computer, so having people speak his name and see his face for centuries is the next best thing. Does not matter if it’s for bad reasons.

            He has also talked about the importance of preserving the light of consciousness. The Borg are perfect for this.

            And then in general, he seems to be on the extra-sociopathic end of the tech bro spectrum, where the point of a life well lived is productivity and accumulation of assets, and emotions are a weakness. He would probably get all hot and bothered at the idea of being able to assimilate all life forms, share their useful technical knowledge across the collective, and summarily discard all the cultural distractions from the Great Productive Mission.

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    We ended up with the Alternative future, whoopsie.

    Can somebody reverse the polarity or something already!? 😜

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    Pretty sure Roddenberry himself realized later how unrealistic his original vision was. Humans are always humans, from our beginning to our end, we will always have the same flaws and issues and prejudices, and no amount of technology is gonna fix that

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      That is the exact premise of his next show, which he wrote notes for and his wife produced (edit: or something, she was heavily involved in taking it forward anyway).

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        That show had a great first season. It also lasted five seasons.

        Oh, man, did they fuck it up. The final season is partially about taking down space vampires, and partially about watching clips from previous seasons.

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          Yeah, iirc Majel (Gene Roddenberry’s wife) died midway through the making of the show, once saying about it:

          Majel Barrett-Roddenberry contended that Earth: Final Conflict was the biggest disappointment for her, saying the show was “pretty bad.”

          That said, getting past the “punch the aliens in the nose” aspects, it also has an interesting message (imho) about “purity” having its downsides, ultimately dooming the Talons to a long demise. And then whatever the fuck happened in that last season - presumably it had a point as well but it got so hard to keep making allowances for it after the space Jesus holy-trinity-in-one triple-helix-having Chimera savior of mankind plotline.

          But I don’t hold any of that against either Gene Roddenberry, who had been dead for awhile by then, or his wife who didn’t survive long enough to see the show’s end herself. The premise of the show was FANTASTIC! Probably that’s what Gene had wanted from DS9 as well: they sit there and the action comes to them, to contrast from the more exploration-minded Enterprise shows (TOS and TNG). And… truth isn’t always apparent right from the start.:-)

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        Just when I thought I had heard and learned enough Star Trek to last me a few more years of watching content … now I learn about this! Thanks for mentioning it!

        This sounds amazing and it was made by Gene Roddenberry … or at least originated by him.

        Now I have to add this to my list of sci-fi to watch … I need to live to 200 years of age to finish watching all this stuff I have listed. I really wouldn’t mind O’Brien placing me in the transport buffer for a few hundred years if I was just allowed to watch TV the whole time.

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          There truly is enough TV to last us all several lifetimes worth:-).

          Though Gene Roddenberry’s content does seem highly worthwhile, when you can.

          He is very imaginative, and great at world-building.

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        Yes yea, you’re an American leftists and everyone who isn’t you is a fascist, we get it. Go fight with other leftists in the corner while the right is united and laughing at you. Why are Americans so appealed by toxic, exclusionary mindsets? Stop calling everyone around you a fascist, that’s how you end up alone with no friends.

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          I thought you had a point up above, but you are losing people here by allowing yourself to be triggered. Do whatever you want but I wanted to offer that thought.:-)

          On Reddit and Facebook both I was always allowing myself to get drawn into arguments with people who were never going to change their minds. But here on the Fediverse we don’t need to foster engagement to help fill up someone’s pocketbook (more traffic => more ads => moar money 🤑💰). I hope you can find a way to just have fun here! 😁