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Definitely don’t go to fmhy.net and definitly don’t join the !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com community. Also don’t visit torrentgalaxy.to, 1337x.to or solidtorrents.to. You probably also wouldn’t want to check out rutracker.org or therarbg.com.
Saving your comment to remember what sites to avoid.
Save offline or bookmark in case it gets deleted.
Also share it when you can in other places so people know what pages to avoid.
Arghh
I posted another comment with a ton of useful media sources to avoid. You might want to save that comment as well.
It’d be a damn shame if you accidently downloaded cloudstream, an android app that allows you to download and watch offline, or just stream nearly any show or movie. I wouldn’t recommend the super stream source, as it almost always has a version available. Also, just in case, maybe don’t download tachiyomi to allow you to read any comics, manga, or graphic novels you want. It also has shitloads of hentai and pulls from almost every website imaginable.
And avoid Anna’s archive, as it has tons of ebooks which might(I’m not a lawyer) actually just be legal?
And definitely avoid libgen and scihub, lest you accidentally learn something new without paying the exorbitant fees.
You the real MVP.
Cloudstream says you need to install sites from repositories in order to stream. What sites or repositories should I avoid at all costs?
You absolutely should not subscribe to a VPN before not visiting any of those sites. I can’t recommend www.privateinternetaccess.com or www.expressvpn.com at all, clearly having never used them. They’re also useless for circumventing cell network limitations on video quality. Completely useless, otherwise I’d use them to subscribe to a cheaper lower data tier but still get 4k video.
please also don’t check about protonVPN.
Also, stay away from usenet and definitely don’t use the arr apps to automatically download your favorite shows and movies.
Any guide on how to find the usenet groups? I’d hate to stumble upon them accidentally, so it’s best to be prepared.
https://old.reddit.com/r/usenet/wiki/faq
You’ll need one or more indexers to find content. Keep an eye on that sub for when some of the good ones open their registrations.
Sounds too complicated for my tastes.
It’s more complicated to set up but ridiculously simpler and faster once set up, from what I’ve heard. Also something you shouldn’t do. Nobody should do it because it makes illegal things too easy.
God no. You never want to have radarr fetch an entire movie and dump it into jellyfin/Plex by the time your popcorn is done. No sir.
Btw, you should also never get a seedbox to torrent anonymously. You also need to stay away from private trackers.
Thanks a lot for telling us which services to avoid. You’re a lifesaver.
Imagine if people set up a Plex/Jellyfin after visiting those sites to have their own streaming service setup. Pure madness!
After learning how to do it on lemmy.world/c/selfhosted ! Madness
Thank you for your service and I will never visit those websites.
Also definitely dont look into setting up sonarr, radarr, prowlarr, and overseerr in combination with Plex or jellyseerr in combination with jellyfin. Otherwise you could find yourself with an extremely low touch automated downloading and organizing system that you can let your friends log into to request movies and shows without them needing to bug you at all for it to be downloaded in your preferred quality, size, codec, etc and automatically show up in Plex/jellyfin as soon as it finishes downloading, all renamed and sorted into folders as you please. That would be horrible.
So like what’s the actual deal with pirating content nowadays? I remember in the early 2000s it was don’t seed and don’t torrent just-released content and you won’t get caught. Are the companies more rigorous nowadays? Are they going after people and you really do need a VPN? Can you torrent content at a human-watchable pace (like a show or two a month, maybe a movie or two a week) and no one’s going to notice you?
Depends on the country. In the U.S., instead of chasing users themselves, they have leveraged the Internet providers to act as enforcers. If you torrent something they first send you notice of violation from your Internet provider.
If you continue to torrent, they can
cancel your service or the copyright holder can start legal action.Honestly, I would never torrent anything anymore. There are great webpages that offer streaming for no cost.
A direct download/streaming site can be shut down at any time. Torrents are resistant to censorship, as they are decentralized. Just grab a good VPN or a seedbox and you can torrent as much as you want.
Just get a VPN and torrent like normal in the 2000s. Nothing has changed. Seeding is not really a big deal anymore because everyone’s internet speeds are so fast.
They generally ignore it unless you become excessive and then they just warn you, nothing horrible. But if you do it over a VPN, they can’t do anything. Or do it from a cloud instance from Amazon, or Google, and then download the files locally from there.
I personally love QBtorrent and the built in search engine, plus if you look for it there are block lists you can quickly install into it that blocks you from connecting to known IP addresses of copyright enforcers but I’d still recommend a VPN anyways for good measure from your ISP but those are cheap and easy too.
I definitely seed a lot more than I did in the 2000s but I have fiber and unlimited data so that’s an easier ask.
There are supposedly great private torrent sites but I’ve been ok with the ones everyone else uses and haven’t figured out if I need to do different.
i wouldn’t download a car because i have no space, but i would stream it.
Be careful putting that stuff on lemmy. Big studios aren’t afraid to sue
Definitely don’t set sail on the seven seas
I unironically love that fmhy.net’s site would work well in Gopher.
I dust off my robe and wizard hat.
Plex is a great streaming alternative. Cancelling Netflix pays for the upgrade to gigabit Internet. Hard drives are cheaper now than ever. Usenet access remains safe and speedy. The DIY community for automation is thriving.
Is that the Jolly Roger coming in to port? Welcome back old friends.
Worth checking out Jellyfin as well
I MUCH prefer Jellyfin to Plex. Jellyfin seems to have active development whereas Plex is more interested in adding in a ton of “features” (aka garbage) that I never ever wanted and continues to leave YEARS old bugs out in the wild. I think it won’t be long until Plex enshittifies itself to death. They clearly have a financial situation that is not aligned with its users.
I agree, I’ll give the software another try once I have more free time to learn and troubleshoot
Plex has a client on my TV and Xbox. How would I watch Jellyfin content on those?
I say this a guy that got his RasPi3 Plex server running just good and stable a year ago and doesn’t touch it except to cycle in new content.
You could use Emby instead. Jellyfin is the FOSS version of Emby and Emby has apps for everything. I moved to Emby from Plex five years ago or so and it’s been great.
In the worst case scenario, you can access it via browser and then bookmark it.
I do that on my tv for which almost no apps can be installed and found no issues so far. Even HDR media plays, which I found that it is (or was?) a paid feature on Plex
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Infuse is only $10 per year and that includes on your Apple TV and iPhone. It really is quite slick and looks really good.
Agreed. This is not expensive at all. 100% worth the value which is less than a dollar a month.
FWIW, my Plex Pass has worked to be much less than that since I purchased it.
Much (not all) of the negative I see about Plex is associated with cost of a Plex Pass. If subscribing monthly, it costs more. If you play the long game with the Lifetime Pass, it’s dirt cheap and pretty darn solid.
$1/month or $10 year. I’d say that’s relatively cheap as far as paid media apps go but certainly more expensive than free.
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Jellyfin feels like it’s 95% of the way there. I switched from Plex to Jellyfin back to Plex again a year or two ago, but I am thinking I should give Jellyfin another shot some time. There was some media that Jellyfin wasn’t able to play even without transcoding that Plex handled fine, but those transcoding issues could be solved by now.
Unfortunately, there’s no Jellyfin application on my TV, or I’d swap :-(
I tried but the technical gap from Plex to Jellyfin was too intense for me to try and make work at this time of my life. Plex works well for my purposes and I paid for the phone apps when needed ($6 per device I think).
I admire and support Jellyfin as FOSS and hope I can jump on when I have more time to make it work.
Yeah for sure, didn’t mean to imply folks shouldn’t use Plex just giving it a shout out as an alternative. I’ve used both and they are both pretty awesome. One of my friends set up a seed box with Jellyfin so I kinda cheated in leaving the tinkering to them but I don’t think it was too bad with the provider they went with.
I can’t for the life of me get HW encoding working with Jellyfin. Plex was just plug and play.
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worth checking out until you get to the cry for developers that they posted yesterday. fuck switching my media serving to a dying platform
Yep. Finally got Radarr and Sonarr with overseerr setup this summer because I need a GUI solution for my family. It’s been working pretty great so far!
I have the same but the one thing I can’t get working is accessing overseer from outside the network (ie internet). I’ve read guides of course but at some point they start talking about domains and certificate signing and I start to have a siezure.
Look into Caddy, it’s by far the easiest web server/reverse proxy with automatic SSL support out there. Setup both Caddy and Overseer in Docker and then just simply write
reverse_proxy overseer:overseer port
}
Assuming you have you own domain name and have DNS records setup.
I was using Nginx and Let’s Encrypt for years but it was a bit of a pain in the ass. I just rewrote my entire Docker Compose script to use Caddy so I can deploy everything in about 5 minutes.
Any thoughts on using something like Caddy, or any other reverse proxy option, if you already have a VPN that you pay for?
Currently I’m using Tailscale for my phone and tablet, but there’s not really an option for Roku outside of my home network. I’d like to give a friend access to my Jellyfin, but I can’t seem to get anything working other than Tailscale because I already pay for ProtonVPN.
Routing the reverse proxy through the VPN just complicates things. I’m assuming you mean you want to give a friend access to your Jellyfin server, not your Roku (not sure why you mentioned that), so just have Caddy listen on ports 80 and 443, and forward the ports on your router. Then setup the reverse proxy lines for Jellyfin in the Caddyfile. Assuming you already have DNS setup you should be good to go, just give your friend the URL. Caddy enables SSL by default so there really is no reason to route the traffic through a VPN tunnel. I’m pretty sure the Jellyfin docs have a section for using Caddy as a reverse proxy.
I’ll have to check again on the Jellyfin docs, but when I was las trying to follow the steps, I ran into an issue where some IP didn’t match something else and it told me I couldn’t continue.
My friend uses a Roku so getting him to use Tailscale or anything like it isn’t really an option.
Yeah, I think you’re confused 😉 There is no need for your friend to use a VPN to access your Jellyfin server. All you need to do is make it publicly accessible and tell him where to find it (the URL).
It can literally be as simple as setting up NAT on your router (commonly known as port forwarding, linking the IP of the Jellyfin server and it’s port to a designated port on your router accessible via your public IP) and then giving your friend your public IP and the port that you opened. THIS IS HIGHLY DISCOURAGED THOUGH SINCE NOTHING IS ENCRYPTED.
It’s best to setup either Dynamic DNS (usually free, but you don’t get your own domain name, usually just a subdomain under their domain name) or buy your own domain name for cheap (like $10-$30 USD/year) and setup your A records (and CNAME records if you want) in the hosted DNS section. Once you have DNS working then setup a reverse proxy using something like Caddy (simple), Traefik (more complex), or Nginx (a full blown, complex web server) and Certbot/LetsEncrypt. SSL certs and reverse proxies can be a pain in the ass sometimes, but Caddy makes it dead simple.
From there just give your friend your URL (https://jellyfin.yourserver.com or however you have it setup). He puts that in the connection box in the Jellyfin UI and it should work as intended.
I just set up a VPN with wire guard and duckdns. Connected my phone and works great. Some one will mention a show and I’ll pull out my phone and add it via overseer. Get it on plex in like 2 minutes.
Cloudflare zero trust tunnels are your answer
Is there any links/guides on how to get into the usenet side of things? I’ve been using torrents forever but people keep saying usenet is safer.
Google/learn about/consider these things
VPN, Usenet provider (i.e. EasyNews), Usenet indexers (i.e. NZBgeek), Usenet client (i.e. NZBget), Managing your library (Sonarr, Radar, Prowlarr, Filebot),
Media server & streaming (i.e. Plex, Jellyfin)
I watch through my firestick or android phones
I might be missing something, but there are lots of guides once you figure out what you’re looking for. A little technical know-how makes things go smoother and faster though.
Thanks for the info. I’ve got. Sonarr radarr and prowlarr set up with qbitt right now and jellyfin. I’ll have to do some digging this weekend.
There’s a few recent guides on Reddit that discuss this and automation. I got access to some private torrent trackers this year, but haven’t touched them since I got my Usenet subscription. I’ve been waiting decades for it to be this easy once you get it set up.
If you already have that automation part going, this should be pretty straight forward. Add a Usenet download client to your *arr programs, put in the account info from your Usenet provider, add on your account info for nzb trackers, and it works just the same except with more consistency and speed.
I tried to get into Usenet but I’m old and unable to learn new tricks. I just looked at EasyNews and it’s $9.99 pm for 20GB :| so, like, a single 4K movie with Atmos. I don’t understand the allure of UseNet, perhaps because I am a dumb.
I have EasyNews, I think I paid $30 for 6 months of unlimited.
Here you go, $6 a month unlimited signup link https://signup.easynews.com/checkout/unlimited-special-deal/
Also, what makes Usenet safer?
I second this and I’m in the same boat as you
Running a VPN makes torrenting just as safe and you’ll be paying a subscription fee for Usenet so it’s a wash in my opinion.
Plex is cracking down on pirated content. They can’t do anything locally (yet) but they sent out a mass email about two weeks ago saying that anyone that hosts a Plex server in the cloud (they didn’t specifically mention Hetzner, but that’s who is largely being affected) will lose access on October 12th.
That’s because people were creating their own ‘streaming services’ using pirated content and selling access to it using Hetzner servers, which is very bad for all parties involved because it brings a lot of negative attention when actual profits are being generated from distributing pirated material.
Yeah, but it sucks for people like me who just set everything up a few weeks ago and are using it privately. I’ve hosted a massive Plex server locally for about a decade, but finally decided to stop doing everything locally. I had it running for two weeks in the cloud before I got the email from Plex. I just setup Jellyfin yesterday and all of my users will have to migrate to that.
That sucks for you, but you gotta understand Plex there as well I think. They know that all their clients are pirates, but they can’t just ignore something like that, lest risk catching unwanted attention.
People thought hosting copyrighted content on someone’s cloud and making it available to others was a good idea? 🤦🤦♀️🤦♂️
This is why we can’t have nice things.
It’s specifically people doing this and selling access to the servers en masse, like these servers have a hundred or more users each. The don’t care about the small fish that are doing this privately for no monetary gain.
Yeah, I guess it’s often profit-driven. If you can get $5 per month from 100 people, you can probably clear hundreds of dollars per month. So that ten times, and this becomes quite a serious profit stream.
Yet.
Plex is cracking down on pirated content.
I’m just as jaded and cynical as the next guy, but I think that this is a mischaracterization of that email. People were hosting Plex servers with thousands of users and terabytes of pirated content on Hetzner and selling access. I don’t read them taking action as a signal for them blocking local libraries in the future.
They all do it just to get the lawyers off their backs. Plex is just a bigger target. Plex can’t block anything locally so they take action against user distributing pirated content on a cloud service and are like “Here, we took action, can you leave us alone now?”. It would practically be impossible for them to block the distribution of pirated content at the local level.
Plex fucked up when they created their Client-Server model because it allows traffic to run through their servers (the Plex Relay and their “phone home” model). This makes them legally responsible for “facilitating access to pirated content” even though they don’t host the content. Jellyfin doesn’t have this pitfall since you host everything yourself, they just provide the software.
You’re the second person that says " Plex isn’t cracking down on pirated content… but they’re banning people who are hosting servers with pirated content." If that’s not " cracking down on pirated content" IDK what is…
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That’s their entire userbase. Bold call haha
Yeah, people act like Plex and other media servers are used for legally obtained content only. Plex is just covering their asses and they can’t block users hosting locally so this is a “here we did something, are you happy now?” to the copyright lawyers.
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Sorry I don’t buy it. It stinks of puppeting for rights holders. I moved to Jellyfin as soon as that story broke. I’ve been a Plex pass user for over 10 years (albeit lifetime single purchase) and the only thing I miss is in-TV subtitle search.
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I’ve been running both Plex and Jellyfin for years and I’ve had more problems with Plex than I’ve had with Jellyfin. It’s also easier to figure out what the issue is since it’s open source, I actually fixed a bug and added documentation for the “Native streaming” in JellyfinForKodi since I was able to dig deep into it.
I’ve always found that Hardware (GPU) Encoding to be a pain to use, regardless of the platform. It also lessens the quality of the video compared to Software Encoding. Get yourself a stronger CPU and don’t mess with HE. I have a AMD Threadripper 2970WX in my home server and it laughs at transcoding 4K with uncompressed audio and Dolby Vision/Atmos. I can do 4 4K simultaneous transcodes with room to spare.
People pay Plex for the ease of remote access. If you can read or watch a video, it’s really not that difficult to setup remote access for Jellyfin (they have the process fully documented). There’s a key thing here: if you setup the remote connection it removes any liability from the software creators (Jellyfin in this case). If you want to give them $120 or more because you can’t be bothered to figure out how to setup remote access yourself, so be it, but you’re also at the whim of the company.
You seem really sensitive to this.
You have made the move to JF based on what you think Plex will do in the future
Yes. Plex have access to my content, my usage history, my personal details, etc. Giving that sort of information away and trusting a for-profit company to do the right thing is naive at best. I feel happier now that the system is behind closed doors, even if I do miss out on a feature or two.
Hence, you were disingenuously spreading nonsense and misinformation.
Not really. Are you mixing my response up with others? I voiced an opinion, that was all.
They also responded to me me saying “Plex has been cracking down on Netflix style streaming services for 5 years” but then tell you “Plex isn’t cracking down on piracy, you’re spreading misinformation!” 🤣
I’ve always hated the fact that Plex was sort of a black box, I’ve been using it for over a decade and always had random issues which we’re unable to be troubleshot because there was no information available. One long standing bug is sometimes when you setup a server it won’t connect to the Plex backend and doesn’t register on their end, so even if you visit the local IP of your server, there are zero server settings available. No one knows why it happens or how to fix it, there has been a big report open for it for ages and even the devs/support team are like 🤷♂️ when you ask them for help, and this is after paying for PlexPass. Granted it doesn’t happen frequently, but it’s still annoying as hell. “Claiming” your server when its run remotely (especially in docker) can sometimes be a huge pain as well.
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You sure are incredibly trusting and protective of Plex. For a closed source system, unless you work for Plex, you are spreading misinformation by denying opinions contrary to your own. I would think myself naive to continue to trust in a company showing themselves to be taking action in favour of copyright holders.
Plex’s (almost) entire user base is pirates, it’s the same with Kodi, Emby and Jellyfin. I don’t know of anyone that has legally ripped all of their DVDs and Blu-rays themselves, it’s just too much of a pain in the ass, and I know multiple people that have run servers for years.
Plex is just covering their own asses from getting sued for “enabling the distribution of pirated content”. Kodi and Jellyfin aren’t big targets since they aren’t a business, they don’t sell a product, Plex (and Emby) does. Kodi and Jellyfin can’t get sued (or it doesn’t make sense to sue them) because they have the disclaimer that says “we make this for streaming content you own, we don’t host anything, we don’t support the piracy plugins, do what you will with it, we’re not responsible for your actions” but since Plex can route traffic through their servers (the Plex Relay) and the fact that they offer PlexPass puts them in hot water.
Instead of Plex blocking the specific users based on email, specific IP or something else specific to that account, they said “fuck anyone using Hetzner, regardless of whether or not you’re violating our ToS.”
I’ve paid for a lifetime PlexPass and have actually paid for it a few times over since it took years before I finally bought one. Yet, I get treated like I’m some mega-pirate making money off of them. They don’t give a shit about their users, all they care about is money and not getting sued.
Good to know, hopefully this creates a drive to make alternatives a little more user friendly to set up
It’s easy to setup remote access to Jellyfin… once you know what you’re doing. I’ve been doing it for years, and just recently gave Caddy a try as my reverse proxy and it literally takes 3 lines of code to create a SSL secured reverse proxy (literally just Jellyfin.yourfqnd.com { reverse_proxy Jellyfin:8096}).
I’ve written a docker compose file for each of my categories of apps on my server: Plex, Jellyfin, Admin apps, and Pirating. The Caddy config file is simple so I just copy that to its app directory. My DNS and my CNAME records are already set.
So after a bit of work writing the aforementioned scripts I can have my entire setup on a new server in about 5 minutes and one command.
IDK if docker-compose works on Windows, but I’m happy to share it if you run Linux.
Haha I’ve been scrolling down this thread and read these wholesome helpful comments and look up and it’s been you each time!!
Cut that shit out!!
👏 well done you beautiful soul 👍
Hahaha happy to help! Apparently two people didn’t like my comment above for some reason 🤷♂️
I’ve been doing this for over a decade and have a lot of experience in what to do and what not to do!
Gotta sell out to get more VC cash somehow /s
Got any names in particular? I’ve been looking at Usenet for a long long time and I think I’m going to finally get serious about it
Sure, check through this comment thread as a few have already been mentioned.
I will take a second look!
Stremio + Real Debrid is definitely not worth investigating. Avoid it at all costs. Keep giving these media companies more money. All the money. Disney needs your dollars.
the capitalists are unable to understand that the “eternal growth” their books mention is not feasible in real world and in fact it is a bug. There are physical upper limits that cannot be overcome. There will not be unlimited people that will always enrol in a new subscription. They need to somehow understand that at some point a company may reach their ceiling. This is not reason to do whatever panic change in order to show growth in the numbers. It will just not happen.
Ah but when the prices can’t go any higher they can always remove content, paying their suppliers less and getting cheaper hardware. I wish I was joking but these are the options that are left.
“Do we really need all these CDNs everywhere?”
“And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds left to conquer.”
– H. Gruber.
The thing is, they do know this. They are perfectly willing to drive a company into the ground on the promise of annual growth, and they’ll dump it the moment it cannot serve them monetarily.
Lies!
It’s mathematically possible to have infinite growth as long as it’s in nominal terms and you have infinite inflation!
(Joke aside, ponder on why central banks have a positive non-zero inflation target…)
When will the greed stop? At what point will these corporations realize that the average American is completely stretched thin financially and will have to cease unnecessary expenses? They’re all just shooting themselves in the foot.
“When will the greed stop?”
Never
It‘s laughable to expect corporations to act against their only purpose. As soon as a company sells shares it takes the route of infinite growth which is impossible. First they grow their user base and once they start to inevitably stagnate, they start milking their costumers, shaving off features and laying off workers in order to grow their income. It is really the only way for them to remain existent when the market is saturated. They cannot stay in business when they make billions a year when these billions aren‘t even more billions than last year. You can‘t attract new investors that way and therefore cannot continue to exist. Enshittyfication only just started. It cannot possibly get better when they can‘t expand their user base, only worse. They know they will self destruct eventually, but that doesn‘t matter as long as shareholders get their piece of the cake and jump ship to sink the next one. Just being a massively profitable company is bad business if you‘re not growing. That‘s the state of capitalism we‘re in.
As soon as a company sells shares it takes the route of infinite growth which is impossible
yeah, the stock market makes that a company that is stable and generates a reliable income each year is seen as bad, but a company that has large grow in obviously unsustainable speed, which doesn’t have plans on how to ever become profitable is good (i am not specifically taking about netflix here)
Seems like, at a certain point in your growth and success, you could use your billions to buy back stock. That could keep the stock price high, which keeps investors happy. Once you’ve bought back enough stock, you can effectively go private again, with all of the growth paid for by investors.
When the platform dies.
“first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die. “
Incorrect.
It will stop when our species exterminates itself out of greed.
Climate change will probably only thin our numbers by the billions as a result of of the owner’s greed, but then they want to profit off AI, and CRISPR, and innumerable other potentially profitable means to our self-extinction.
The greed will stop when all the humans are dead almost certainly by our own hands, and humans are actively working to accomplish this.
As consolidation continues corporations do not need to compete on prices as there are no alternatives. Yes people will pirate but they’ve already lobbied vendors to embrace DRM and governments to make it illegal so that makes it as annoying as possible.
Are we reading the same thing? Netflix has more competition now than it ever has. When Netflix had cheaper prices when it has no competition than it does now. Piracy has been making a huge resurgence as well.
“More competition” meaning less access, people having to pay for multiple different services instead of having it in one place.
The competition should be about having the best platform, not exclusive content. There’s no reason why the same show couldn’t be on two different platforms. And available globally. Practically, all you really need is more local servers for where there’s more traffic.
When Netflix started they entered the market as a licensor of content from studios to be distributed as part of a streaming service.
This possibility largely no longer exists. All of the studios have bought out competition, stopped licensing a lot of their popular content, and now release their content themselves. This means there is little competition in the film distribution market for streaming, beyond PayPerView.
Oh you sweet summer child…
America is founded on greed and power, it’ll never stop.
When enough people cancel. Keep paying, they’ll keep raising the price.
As long as people pay for it and they make massive profits through it.
I mean, look at the last situation in which netflix addressed account sharing. Their user number actually increased because of it from what I have read.
Those people that can’t afford it will most likely switch to a less expensive tier and then probably see ads. I have seen that recently with my father who wasn’t even bothered or annoyed by the constant ads while watching a single episode.
I don’t understand how people are ok with ads? They annoy me so much. It’s wasting your time so it can attempt to manipulate you into buying stuff with the money you can’t afford to spend.
We keep saying this but they keep profiting more and more every time lol. Remember when everyone on reddit was gonna quit Netflix for the password sharing block? Ya, their users increased afterwards.
To be fair, we only have their word for how many subscribers they have.
If Netflix is out right lying, I’m sure stockholders would be happy and not tank the stock at all
As long as they are profitable, and the stock price is up, the stockholders wouldn’t even question their user numbers.
Lol no, stockholders wouldn’t want to risk the fallout of Netflix being caught
They’ll stop if everyone sailed the high seas.
Price of WD red HDD’s about to go up too
Storage right now is probably as cheap as its gunna get for a while, good time to stock up
Well… New tech should make higher storage densities mainstream again in 1-2 years. Seagate just released 32TB HAMR drives for commercial use
Damn boooy
A couple of those and I don’t even have to delete stuff I already watched
/r/DataHoarder would like a word
I wish there was a betteter way tou say “yes, you are right”
We should all know that Netflix’s method of “throwing money at the wall and hope one of the shows becomes a hit, cancel immediately after a season if it doesn’t work out” is completely unsustainable at this point, as this kind of dehumanizing disposablilty of production is the exact " industry disruptive" approach to expect from a bunch of arrogant Silicon Valley techbros, so this cost increase should not come as a surprise.
Many long running shows have had pretty bad first seasons, “Parks and Rec”, the US version of “The Office”, and “The Simpsons” comes to mind, and these shows would never have even gotten off the ground if Netflix was running them, because as with all industries, it takes a while for people to find their footing and get to know each other to work together effectively.
The real sad part is, the industry that has copied Netflix’s “disruptive” approach are now finding out that the emperor has no clothes and are desperately trying to pass the cost off to anybody else for their own survival, which is why it is more important than ever to fight for the dignities of the people who worked on your favorite shows for your entertainment.
I could very well be mistaken and please correct me if I am. I remember reading that canning a show before season 3 or so was a way of getting around union costs that kick in for a ‘longer’ running show. A very anti labor strategy designed to cash in quickly then drop it so Netflix wouldn’t have to share the wealth.
I thought it was a balance between new shows getting better engagement than old shows, and contracts lasting 3 seasons, which required re-negotiations in favor of the talent. Basically a business model hyper-focused on subscriber growth metrics instead of subscriber retention.
Imo they’re really poisoning the well. If they pump out shit show after shit show what will happen (and is likely already happening) is consumers wait until the second season for a show releases to make sure they’re not wasting their time getting invested into a show that will be canceled anyway. That will then lead to fewer and fewer shows actually becoming successful, eventually leading to people cancelling the subscription because the last time they watched anything (good) on Netflix was 10 years ago.
I agree, but IMO part of the problem is people watching just whatever to pass time - and this is also going into the stats.
To be frank, I don’t think they care about anything else other than keeping people on the platform. Which is not such a bad goal to be had if they tried to achieve that with quality of service, good offering of entertainment, etc. What they are doing is desperately trying to create some long running series where on which people will get hooked and won’t be able to leave even if everything else starts sucking. Should this ever happen I think we can fully expect their next step to be reduced amount of licensing towards other shows and movies.
But as you rightly put it, you can’t grow forever and ever increasing revenue can only be had in dreams.
Actually, I don’t think they care about retention at all, because to the industry retention = stagnation. They only care about new subscribers because that “shows” growth. They much prefer hearing “We increased subscriber counts by 10%!” over “We kept 100% of subscribers YoY!”
They’re not even slowly raising prices, they are very rapidly raising them. We’ve reinvented cable.
Last year Hulu went up $1, this year $3.
Which isnt so weird when you realise it’s Disney.
Actually, cable didn’t even raise prices this fast. We’ve, unsurprisingly to anyone familiar with capitalism, created something worse.
Perhaps they realized number of people that keeps paying versus number of people who cancel their subscription results in net positive revenue, so they are testing where the line is. All the while trying to fund some new content to get more people to come back.
I wouldn’t doubt there’s collusion. It’s very convenient that none of these services are taking advantage of this and are seemingly raising all of their prices simultaneously.
Inflation and supply chain issues bro ;)
Thanks for reminding me that I haven’t even watched Netflix in a minute. I cancelled it. Fuck them.
Netflix is planning on raising piracy again. 😅
In a 4-D chess move, by canceling everything with no resolution, they’ve made their shows not worth pirating by making them not worth watching.
They tapping into the juicy “afraid to commit” market.
I’d be mad but I cancelled last time this happened.
Yea I didn’t but I’ll cancel this time.
Should make an event with other people. Set a date and cancel all at the same time.
But I can only cancel my subscription once, and I already did, months ago.
they outplayed you 😂 you might be paying $0, but you can’t stop them anymore from charging you 2x$0 next year
I canceled after they lost Star Trek. And then I never subscribed to the place that does have Star Trek now. Now I’m so annoyed with all of the price hikes that I may only ever subscribe to the high seas going forward. Lol
My seedbox price has never increased.
Never mind the price, Netflix just doesn’t have stuff I want to watch anymore.
Netflix does have good shows, but they’re just so few and far in between. I stopped my subscription about a year ago, and haven’t missed it. I’ll resubscribe this month to watch Fall of the House of Usher, then unsub again just because there’s nothing to watch.
Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if others are doing this, the streaming companies catch on, and we pay a bulk amount for a season a la early iTunes again
They also actively pigeon hole users into a small portion of their content, they’ve been stripping away all search and discovery functionality over the years. They are going down the route of “our algorithm is perfect and knows exactly what you want so why would you want to do anything else”
I bet there’s a ton of content you’d actually enjoy that Netflix will never recommend to you because it’s outside of what the algorithm thinks you want to see
I keep thinking about this, big tech companies and their recommendation algorithms that keep getting worse and recommending you content you don’t actually care about but is designed to keep you on their platform is probably one of the biggest bullshit they come up with.
maybe I should write about this in longform next week
I agree, I just hate that when they do have good shows they cancel it immediately 🤦. I cringed when they canceled 1899 and inside job.
I’d actually love a streaming service where you just pay like a flat price and it adds it library, the more you pay the longer the rental term up to like a full ownership price and the ability to download. Microtransaction the streaming service which makes me feel a bit yucky but at least I’d have control over how much I spent and you could build a more permanent library that someone else hosts
The ones I really miss are the Ghibli films :/
Argh matey, I’d rather walk the plank than pay those greedy pigs! Tis the high seas for me landlubbers!!!
pigs in plural, yes. How many streaming services are there now? I lost track a couple of years ago.
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I’ve been a Netflix customer for over 20 years. The recent password crackdown and constant price gouging led me to cancel their service yesterday. Yo Ho MF’ers.
I canceled just after the CEO said that paid customers could be getting ads. Knew that was the beginning of the end
Sounds like Netflix is panicking and scrambling. The frequency of their subscription hikes increases and increases. Perhaps they think they can price hike their way out of the dissatisfaction they have delivered to subscribers. Keep trying Netflix, find that magic subscription price point that will surely cover for all the subscribers you’re shedding with your idiocy and will definitely not hasten your arrival to 0% revenue. Increasing that price won’t lose you more subscribers right? Of course not. Burn Netflix burn.
More like they took on a shitload of very low interest debt back when the fed rate was 0%. Now that the fed rate is 5.5%, they can’t just roll over the loans and have to start paying them back.
They’re finding the optimal price point. Each time they raise they lose some customers, but their increased revenue leads them to being more profitable afterwards. Eventually the price increases will result in so many people leaving that they’ll have to stop.
Problem is, this strategy has exactly one direction: irrelevance. It can take a very long time to get there, but eventually you lose so many subscribers that your competitors have begun eating your lunch. The profits were solid so you didn’t care. It’s the normal business life cycle, and Netflix is well into the mature phase. We have worse quality and higher prices to look forward to.
Netflix’s lowered revenue growth is the highlight. That’s what they and their investors focus on, with subscriber satisfaction being an afterthought. The price hikes haven’t shown any effect on that downward trend either. But hey, keep hiking I say. Fires burn bigger when fuel is added and these people can’t differentiate water from gasoline. Having washed my hands of this company, I’m looking forward to further scrambling when revenue growth is nil and then negative and the stock drops and drops and the corporatists wail.
