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The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.world to People Twitter@sh.itjust.works · 8 months ago

Might not even have to change the acronym

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Might not even have to change the acronym

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The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.world to People Twitter@sh.itjust.works · 8 months ago
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  • ted@sh.itjust.works
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    Autistic Individual

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      You mother fucker

      • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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        That’s Oedipus. Different guy.

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          Tedipus

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    AI is an initialism since you don’t pronounce AI. NASA would be an acronym because you pronounce the word.

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      this is one of those facts i have to struggle to keep to myself to avoid coming off as an insufferable nerd

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        Boom, roasted

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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          sniped

        • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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          slammed!

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      Now this is the kind of pedantry I’m here for

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      Wait you do not pronounce AI like a Sopranos character that just found an eye ball on the sidewalk?

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      Don’t tell me what to do.

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        Whatever you do, don’t follow this advice.

    • The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldOP
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      I always forget this, thanks

    • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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      AI is pronounced “ay-eye”

      • Sabre363@sh.itjust.works
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        Are ya ready kids!

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      Do SQL next!

      • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
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        Correct:

        • “Sequel”
        • Structured Query Language

        Incorrect:

        • “Squall”
        • “Es-queue-el”

        The one that people really screw up? PostgreSQL.

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          Squirrel.

          • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
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            Where?!

            :: confused ADHD noises ::

            • Sotuanduso@lemm.ee
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              Outside, but you’ll have to touch grass to reach it.

              • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
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                Outside? Hard pass.

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          It’s interesting that Wikipedia says it’s pronounced " S-Q-L" but was historically pronounced “sequel.”

          Also interesting, MySQL says on their site:

          The official way to pronounce “MySQL” is “My Ess Que Ell” (not “my sequel”), but we do not mind if you pronounce it as “my sequel” or in some other localized way.

          Lastly, for those curious, PostgreSQL says on their site:

          PostgreSQL is pronounced Post-Gres-Q-L.

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            Post Graduate Squirrel

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          My people often pronounce nginx as “n-ginsk” not “engine x”.

          • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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            sad pikachu

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            We call things “bits”, “bytes”, and my favorite: “nybbles”. IT is rife with wordplay. How could they not think it was a cool way to spell “enigne”?!

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          What about squill?

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            Yeah, let’s not. :p

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        Squeal?

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          You’re one of those? Its sequel and GIF has a hard g.

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            Soft G folk are just objectively wrong. Not only is Jif a peanut butter, it’s a damn file extension: https://fileinfo.com/extension/jif

            I don’t care how inconsequential it is, I will die on this hill.

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              Jif is an oven cleaner here. Because I hate everyone, I started pronouncing it Gif. Makes a lot of people very very angry

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              I like the cut of your jib.

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              Nah, creator says soft-g. Just like gigawatts.

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        I called this S.Q.L. until our IT guy corrected me

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          I’m the head of IT for my company and it’s S-Q-L and I’m a native speaker.

          It’s not a grammatically correct pronunciation at all (which is why it seems like non-native English tends to not say “Sequel”) and even MySQL documentation specifically calls it out and says it’s S-Q-L

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          Generally English first language speakers say sequel while everyone else spells it out.

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            If it’s pronounced sequel why isn’t it CQL?

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              Because it’s not, it’s just something from computing history that is no longer relevant

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      This may be a bit prescriptivist. Most people use the word acronym for all of them.

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      Is initialism a type of acronym? Or do they have an umbrella term? Surely, they are the same thing, but if initialism has easily string-able sounds it’s an acronym (ex. CPU vs. RAM). And some are even both depending on person saying it, like LED.

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        Other way around.

        An acronym is a type of initialism, which is itself a type of abbreviation.

        So acronyms are initialisms where you pronounce the letters like a word (e.g., RAM), initialisms are abbreviations made by taking the initial letters of multiple words and concatenating them regardless of how it’s spoken (e.g. FBI for Federal Bureau of Investigation), and an abbreviation is any shortening of a word or phrase into something shorter (e.g., “abbrev.” for abbreviation or “US” for United States).

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          Is US an abbreviation of an initialism (USA)?

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            I did some research, and apparently, “United States” without “of America” could be a kind of ellipsis. But more likely, it’s just an alternative country name. So I think that makes US an initialism (because you pronounce it as [yu-es]) for an alt (bonus info: this is a final clipping, or apocope, of “alternative”) name.

            Linguistics is such a dirt hut…

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        Is pronouncing LED like an acronym common? I’ve never heard it, and it would take me a while to work out what they’re on about if they’re talking about “lead”

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          It doesn’t happen very often, but I’ve heard it used that way. It’s usually obvious from context, like I think I heard with “OLED vs. LED”. And as @brachypelmasmithi@lemm.ee mentioned, it’s used a lot in languages other than English, in my experience in many slavic ones, for example.

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          Haven’t ever heard it in English either, but it’s very common in Polish. In Polish LED can even become a proper adjective, e.g. “światło ledowe” (LED light), with the initialism even losing capitalisation

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      |ay| checkmate atheists.

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      TIL (ty)

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      On the other hand everyone says “acronym” even when they know the word “initialism” so I’m not entirely sure you’re really completely correct

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      It can be pronounced though as I or eye or something.

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        Yeah you can do that. You would be wrong and people around you would wonder why you switched the subject. But you can do that.

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          But how many people would I need to convince to pronounce it for it to turn into an acronym?

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        No. That’s how we end up with stupid sounding crap like (ugh) “Gooey” for GUI. Just say G-U-I or A-I.

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          till (today I learned) some people say G - U - I and not gooey

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            I’ve always said the letters and was surprised when I heard someone say ‘gooey’ when I entered college.

            Still don’t like it.

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              no one likes being wrong

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            The first time I heard the term gooey it was from someone I don’t like so now I can’t stand it. All I can think about is buying that dude a toothbrush, but then he’d probably go on about how toothbrushes are actually bad for your health.

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            At my last job I helped design VUIs, voice user interface. We called them “vooeys”.

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            some people say G - U - I

            It should be that way always, frankly, I don’t know why gooey even got started. Something “gooey” is the last thing I’d want associated with computer stuff

            But I loathe all of the stupid attempts at shoehorning pronunciations of initialisms where it doesn’t belong

            It’s not “Sequel” its fucking S-Q-L. They’re all initialisms. I will go through my entire IT career and die on this hill.

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              Do you say J-P-E-G instead of jay-peg?

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                No because jay-peg actually makes sense and fits well, just like NASA makes sense and fits well. You can say NASA and JPEG without having to introduce additional letters to make it work. Unlike “Gooey”, “Sequel”, or “Scuzzy” which all require the addon of more letters to actually work

                You can just see JPEG and intuitively go “Oh Jay-PEG” you can’t say the same for SCSI

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                  You have to “add” letters for JPEG to be pronounceable.

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              I suppose you called them small computer system interface drives instead of SCSI drives too.

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                I just say S-C-S-I instead of “Scuzzy” or whatever it is

                Everyone says H-T-T-P, why don’t they say “Hettep”‽

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                  Nah, it’s scuzzy.

                  And when I’m trolling, I say “huh-tu-tu-puh” for HTTP.

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                Don’t even start with PCMCIA

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              It’s not “sequel,” it’s “squirrel.”

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          No, GUI is a great acronym.

          I had a colleague pronounce CLI as an acronym, though, and that stopped a meeting short.

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            Huh, short i?

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              He said it like “klee”

              He’ll probably never live it down

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                Ah, I thought it was like “clit,” but missing the “t.” That could get you sent to HR…

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                  I’m no snitch

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          It’s been called a gooey since at least the mid 80s. All you kids get off my lawn.

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            Then it’s been wrong since the mid-80s and also becomes probable someone just did it as a joke and then it persisted

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              Nope, G-U-I is objectively wrong. Get off A7thStone’s lawn, we’re having a nice chat.

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              Or counterpoint, you’re wrong and you should feel bad.

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                Nah, and I can prove it mathgramatically

                In order to make GUI pronounceable you have to add in vowels and blend consonants and fundamentally changes it’s pronociation. GUI is meant to have each letter on its own, and on their own those letters cannot make the “oo” and “ee” sounds

                On their own they make the following pronunciations:

                G: Pronounced as /dʒi/

                U: Pronounced as /ju/ (like “you”)

                I: Pronounced as /aɪ/ (like “eye”), with a long “i” sound

                In contrast, true acronyms like “NASA” form a pronounceable word naturally without requiring any modifications, making “Gooey” a grammatically improper pronunciation of “GUI.”

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                  You’re right everyone pronounces taxi as tax eye. You’re actually trying to dictate pronunciation in English?

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          TIL you can pronounce it “Gooey” - aww, people are wierd but creative!

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            Funny having the opposite realization. Wonder how many times each of us have heard others pronounce GUI. You in the US?

            Hard for me to estimate now that I think about it

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              I’ve probably said GUI tens of thousands of times. Have you ever heard some pronounce SQL as squeal?

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                LOL

                Thankfully absolutely not

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            ‘I’ before ‘E’ except after ‘W’

            It’s easy to remember because it rhymes

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          WYSIWYG = why see wig

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            Wizzy-wig.

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            I always said Wizz-e-wig

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    Since ChatGPT learns from internet users, does that mean the majority of internet users are autistic?

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      You already know the answer to that one lol

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        A place known for highly obsessive and weirdly specific knowledge experts? Surely not

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    As a probably not autistic person, email is one area where warmth is not wanted. Just get to the point, I have a dozen more to get through. And that’s precisely why you shouldn’t use AI to write email, AI rambles, I want 1-2 sentences, short phrases are fine.

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      At my job, Email is either:

      • Jira notifications
      • Long ramblings about some project or fire that happened

      All other communication is through our chat (zulip, like Slack) or video calls.

      I remember dealing with short emails back in the day. But id flip out these days.

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        Yup, pretty much the same. If we do get email, they’re usually pretty short, or they’re corporate nonsense.

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      Seriously. I want highly detailed, equally highly concise emails. Send me an email with the topic in the subject and only relevant bullet points in the body and I’ll love the hell out of you.

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    Rua must never have worked tech support. I’ve been accused of being a robot more times than I can count, years before ChatGPT was even a thing.

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      Nice try, robot.

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        Nice try, AI powered AI detector.

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      We’ve had automated chats for a long time

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        Yeah, but I’m far more articulate than those things ever were which is what makes it so insulting >:[

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    For the last time, my name is Al

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      Will you be my bodyguard?

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        I can be your long lost Pal.

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          I can call you Betty

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          PAI

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      I can call you Betty And Betty, when you call me. You can call me AI

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      ALAN! ALAN!

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    I just see two autistics attempting to communicate by email.

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    deleted by creator

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      Oh shit, that sounds way more fun than casual Friday

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      Someone, in a mail including my boss and other managers, complained that my replies were too short

      To which I replied

      ‘They are as long as they need to be.’

      So she went ‘A little warmth would help communication greatly’ or some other bullshit.

      So I added automatic top and bottom text to my emails and for the past idk 10 years or so, all my emails start with ‘Hi,’ and end with ‘Cordially.’

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    Sent from Proton Mail mobile 😭😭😭

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      Does that confirm it?

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        As a Proton user? Definitely.

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        beyond any doubt

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    You really cannot blame them. Especially when Universities partner with OpenAI and cut off all ways to contact advisors aside from text and email right before admissions.

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    Should’ve just said “Ain’t AI. I just dgaf”

    It’s work email not a love letter.

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    If only their next meeting had been on a Tuesday, that would have been the perfect plausibly deniable “fuck you” to end the reply with 😄

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    Aitistic.

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    Why aren’t you helping the tortoise?

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      Never trust a tortoise. Horny bastards.

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    See you next Friday

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      Shoulda said Tuesday

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        K, I have an Excel sheet that helps me with epitaphs, I’ll update it to use next Tuesday if that’s the normal

        See you next 1727813501

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