NY bill would require a criminal history background check for the purchase of a 3D printer::Requires a criminal history background check for the purchase of a three-dimensional printer capable of creating firearms; prohibits sale to a person who would be disqualified on the basis of criminal history from being granted a license to possess a firearm.

  • phillaholic
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    11 year ago

    I disagree that it conveys the same point unless your point is that criminals don’t follow laws, so why have laws. Cars are very regulated. You also can’t sneak a car through a metal detector in your pocket and run individuals over indoors. Completely different threats, with completely different availability.

    This bill was just introduced, there’s little detail yet on how this could be accomplished.

    • @hedgehog@ttrpg.network
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      11 year ago

      Is that really the point that you took away from my comment? Let me simplify it for you:

      • The law cannot possibly have a positive effect. It cannot reduce deaths no matter how effective it is because there have been no deaths.
      • The law will have an outsized negative effect. It prevents and delays access to tools that are used by businesses, schools, and hobbyists. That’s not even accounting for the cost to review the background checks.

      This bill was just introduced, there’s little detail yet on how this could be accomplished.

      Did you follow the link and read the bill? It lays it all out.

      1 Section 1. The general business law is amended by adding a new section
      2 398-g to read as follows:
      3 § 398-g. Sale of certain three-dimensional printers. 1. Any retailer
      4 of a three-dimensional printer sold in this state which is capable of
      5 printing a firearm, or any components of a firearm, is required and
      6 authorized to request and receive criminal history information concern-
      7 ing such purchaser from the division of criminal justice services in
      8 accordance with the provisions of section eight hundred forty-five-b of
      9 the executive law. Access to and the use of such information shall be
      10 governed by the provisions of such section. The division of criminal
      11 justice services is authorized to submit fingerprints to the federal
      12 bureau of investigation for a national criminal history record check.
      13 2. Within fifteen business days after receiving a request for criminal
      14 history information pursuant to this section, the commissioner of the
      15 division of criminal justice services shall review such criminal history
      16 information and determine whether such purchaser has been convicted
      17 anywhere of a felony or a serious offense or who is not the subject of
      18 an outstanding warrant of arrest issued upon the alleged commission of a
      19 felony or serious offense which would disqualify such individual from
      20 being licensed to carry or possess a firearm under section 400.00 of the
      21 penal law. Such commissioner shall promptly notify the seller of his or
      22 her determination in this regard. No retailer shall sell any three-di-
      23 mensional printer capable of printing a firearm unless the division of
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      1 criminal justice services provides written notification of the determi-
      2 nation under this subdivision.
      3 3. For purposes of this section, "three-dimensional printer" means a
      4 computer or computer-driven machine or device capable of producing a
      5 three-dimensional object from a digital model.
      
      • Lines 3-9 - Any retailer of a 3d printer must request and receive a criminal background history for the purchaser from NY criminal justice services.
      • Lines 13-22 - it will take up to 15 business days to review and provide a response.
      • phillaholic
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        -21 year ago

        In this case a neutral effect is better than a negative one. Preventative legislation on something that is a foregone conclusion is relevant. These guns already exist, and printers are getting better. At some point someone will use one to kill someone. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to get out ahead of it. Is this bill it? I don’t know.

        Those Negative effects are not large burdens.

        Yes I read it. It’s not gone through any review yet and is simply written to piggy back on an existing system. The Drone community went through the same thing worth FAA licensing.