Assembly Bill A8132 has been assigned a “Same As” bill in the Senate: S8586 [NYSenate.gov] [A8132 - 2023]

I don’t own a gun, I never have and I don’t plan to at any time in the future. But if these pass in the NYS Senate and Congress, it would be required to submit fingerprints for a background check then wait 15 days, before you could own any “COMPUTER OR COMPUTER-DRIVEN MACHINE OR DEVICE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A THREE-DIMENSIONAL OBJECT FROM A DIGITAL MODEL.”

This isn’t even going to stop any crimes from happening, for pity sakes regular guns end up in criminal charges all the time, regardless of background check laws. How about some real change and effective measures, rather then virtue-signaling and theater illusion for a constituency?

  • Scratch
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    439 months ago

    3d printers run on GCode. Does that count as a “digital model”?

    Are we licensing CNC mills too now? Or laser cutters?

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      1. FOR PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION, “THREE-DIMENSIONAL PRINTER” MEANS A COMPUTER OR COMPUTER-DRIVEN MACHINE OR DEVICE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A THREE-DIMENSIONAL OBJECT FROM A DIGITAL MODEL.

      Not an American, but it really reads like they redefined 3D printer as meaning “literally any kind of cnc machine”.

        • @lud@lemm.ee
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          89 months ago

          They are not producing 3D objects though, unless you go in with a microscope which I belive is out of scope.

          • @bonn2@lemm.ee
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            18 months ago

            They could print out a cut and fold guide to make a 3d object. Not saying that is a reasonable read of this, just something to argue in court if this somehow makes it to law.

      • @kevin@programming.dev
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        89 months ago

        So a manual mill and a receiver blank are not? If you wanted to build something like this yourself, this is a better option than a 3d printer.

  • @Voyajer@lemmy.world
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    How is that going to work? You can buy printers piecemeal all the way down to the belts, rails, and structural parts. There are complete BOMs online for free. Or you can buy from alibaba or banggood or something who probably won’t declare it properly.

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      I guess they will get a punishment if discovered. Duh.

      Of course the actual illegal users aren’t going to register shit. But you can punish them harder when you find them.

      To be clear I am very much against this considering I own a 3D printer myself and I am a reasonable person.

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    9 months ago

    Me with my unlicensed angle grinder, hammer, drill, and file making AKs out of car doors.

  • @huginn@feddit.it
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    109 months ago

    Note: this bill is nowhere near passing.

    Not saying it can’t pass, but it’s not even remotely close right now.

    • SigilosOP
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      59 months ago

      I agree, but that’s why I wanted to spread awareness that it existed starting now. The sooner the better.

  • @Flumpkin@slrpnk.net
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    99 months ago

    Holy shit, how braindead do you have to be?

    Sponsored By

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenifer_Rajkumar

    Jenifer Rajkumar is a lawyer, professor, and government leader

    Maybe someone really should explain this to people like this. If you want to make a useful gun, it’s far better to make it using old school metalworking tools. 3D printed guns are really shit and still need a metal barrel and stuff. Maybe make a video showing the steps of how to make a gun WITHOUT a 3D printer?

    • @bonn2@lemm.ee
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      18 months ago

      You know what would be more effective? Actually vote people out of office for making insane proposals, but we all know that will never happen.