No removable battery & no headphone jack? That’s a helluva downgrade IMHO. I was just saving up for the original, too. That’s gonna be a no buy from me. I’ll keep an eye out in case they wise up in the future, but this is a no-go.
The FLX1 did not have DP alt mode either, unless I am totally mistaken. All external display concepts for the FLX1 were/are to require sth like DisplayLink. So all that’s lost are file transfer speeds over USB.
@SanctimoniousApe@cm0002 I need a head phone jack too, but I guess using a USB-C to 3.5 mm Headphone Jack Adapter is way cheaper and simpler than engineering a brand new Linux phone that caters exactly to everyone’s preferences : )
But they’re not engineering it (at least not the first one - haven’t bothered looking into the new one yet). The first one was a rebadged phone from another company. I can’t find it now, but when I initially researched the phone someone pointed out how much the specs and appearance matched another android phone. They’ve also stated that they were working with a Chinese “partner” - likely a company that needs sales, and was willing to give the info needed to make drivers for their hardware.
@SanctimoniousApe Yes, I think the previous one may have been a Gigaset #GX6. That could be a good thing comparedto engineering a phone like Purism, Pine64, etc. It’s just going top to bottom, rather than the reverse, so normie-users get stuff working out of the box and can daily drive it.
I don’t think #FuriLabs are opposed to engineering a phone with mainline kernel support, but who is going to finance that? Certainly not enough users willing to pay for the purist approach - which I support BTW as #Librem5 / #postmarketOS user. So their approach does make sense with very limited money, time and support.
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The #FLX1 wasn’t just a rebranded gigaset, its just they both were getting the (almost) same phone from the same manufacturer. And as I understand its just not possible anymore to get it, thats why they went to #FLX1s, which at this time is completely new phone.
The unfortunate hardware decisions (jack, battery) were financially necessary to stay afloat, as it turns out its now cheaper to make a phone without jack and removable battery, based on their words
I never said otherwise, just pointed out that they weren’t engineering it from scratch. I agree there’s no need for that as long as they are given the info they need to write the drivers.
From what I could gather, they wanted to make more of the original FLX1, but could not get the a manufacturer to do that. I am actually not too unhappy with this one, the orginal FLX1 was too big and heavy for my liking.
No removable battery & no headphone jack? That’s a helluva downgrade IMHO. I was just saving up for the original, too. That’s gonna be a no buy from me. I’ll keep an eye out in case they wise up in the future, but this is a no-go.
Even worse, apparently no alt DP display out anymore, which is a killer feature for Linux phones.
The FLX1 did not have DP alt mode either, unless I am totally mistaken. All external display concepts for the FLX1 were/are to require sth like DisplayLink. So all that’s lost are file transfer speeds over USB.
@SanctimoniousApe @cm0002 I need a head phone jack too, but I guess using a USB-C to 3.5 mm Headphone Jack Adapter is way cheaper and simpler than engineering a brand new Linux phone that caters exactly to everyone’s preferences : )
But they’re not engineering it (at least not the first one - haven’t bothered looking into the new one yet). The first one was a rebadged phone from another company. I can’t find it now, but when I initially researched the phone someone pointed out how much the specs and appearance matched another android phone. They’ve also stated that they were working with a Chinese “partner” - likely a company that needs sales, and was willing to give the info needed to make drivers for their hardware.
@SanctimoniousApe Yes, I think the previous one may have been a Gigaset #GX6. That could be a good thing comparedto engineering a phone like Purism, Pine64, etc. It’s just going top to bottom, rather than the reverse, so normie-users get stuff working out of the box and can daily drive it.
I don’t think #FuriLabs are opposed to engineering a phone with mainline kernel support, but who is going to finance that? Certainly not enough users willing to pay for the purist approach - which I support BTW as #Librem5 / #postmarketOS user. So their approach does make sense with very limited money, time and support.
@opensourceopenmind
@SanctimoniousApe
The #FLX1 wasn’t just a rebranded gigaset, its just they both were getting the (almost) same phone from the same manufacturer. And as I understand its just not possible anymore to get it, thats why they went to #FLX1s, which at this time is completely new phone.
The unfortunate hardware decisions (jack, battery) were financially necessary to stay afloat, as it turns out its now cheaper to make a phone without jack and removable battery, based on their words
I never said otherwise, just pointed out that they weren’t engineering it from scratch. I agree there’s no need for that as long as they are given the info they need to write the drivers.
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Thirded. Like GD, the original looked great. What are they thinking?
From what I could gather, they wanted to make more of the original FLX1, but could not get the a manufacturer to do that. I am actually not too unhappy with this one, the orginal FLX1 was too big and heavy for my liking.