It’d be really funny if ByteDance doesn’t sell and TikTok getting banned crashes the economy.
Given the CCP involvement in their country’s businesses, I think there will be a lot more involved than would be in other sales. There are already articles talking about how the sale will take longer than the 6-month timeline (if it passes the Senate/President and any potential legal challenges).
Any sale of a hundred+ billion dollar company takes years. Look at the attempted acquisition of ARM.
Uh…TikTok is not ARM, or anything close to resembling it.
The US justification for forcing the sale of TikTok may be horseshit political theater for dubious reasons, but that doesn’t close the gap of making a TikTok sale anywhere close to resembling ARM.
$16B US revenue, doubling YoY, gross margin likely in the 70s. Even at the P/S of an established company like Facebook, TikTok’s US operations would be worth on the order of $200B. That’s on par with the largest acquisitions in history and dwarves Nvidia’s acquisition attempt of ARM.
Relative valuations aren’t the key differences, it’s what the companies do, and what they support.
ARM technology powers the vast majority of mobile devices, and is estimated to have upwards of 30% of the PC CPU market share by 2026.
It’s sale, or acquisition, is more than a pissing match between two great powers.
I don’t see there being a sale at all. ByteDance isn’t gonna sell the world’s hottest social media platform simply because a foreign country demands it, and even if it were a lucrative enough offer to be tempting, the CPC wouldn’t allow it anyway. If something like this happened in the other direction, I think 1/4 of the US Senate would go into cardiac arrest on the spot, and there’s exactly a 0% chance it would be allowed to happen
'Member when the libs were all up in arms about Orange Baboon picking Mnuchin for treasury secretary. Now they are all rooting for him to “buy” TikTok… Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Uhh…who is rooting for Steve Mnuchin to buy TikTok again?
Seems like a pretty bipartisan thing, I haven’t seen anyone in government offer any disenting opinion.
That’s because it’s not even a potentiality right now. Tik Tok is not up for sale, and the likelihood the Senate even takes up the bill to force a sale is very low. Why would anyone in government care what Steve Mnuchin thinks right now?
I always found this hilarious. I’m in Canada but this opinion applies to my country too.
Everyone keeps talking about evil undemocratic China, authoritarian, manipulative, immoral, untrustworthy and completely unlike our culture or ideals .
But we choose to conduct billions of dollars worth of business and transactions with them on a regular and ongoing basis.
We shouldn’t trust them … but we can buy everything we use from them.
Everyone keeps talking about evil undemocratic China - But we choose to conduct billions of dollars worth of business and transactions with them on a regular and ongoing basis.
That’s probably one of the biggest contradictions of capitalism. You can make up all the bullshit (or valid) reasons you want for why something is bad but because money is the only consideration, all of that falls by the wayside the instant they have something to offer that they want.
When communism finally wins, it will be because capitalists were the ones who ultimately funded them.
Europe had a view in the 90s–00s that trade can be a vehicle for enforcing peace. That plus capitalist greed let Russia invade Georgia and Crimea before that view changed overnight too late. Similarly countries turn a blind eye on what China is doing
Why not Mexico???
Absolutely hilarious framing here implying that it’s somehow China’s fault that US is trying to ban TikTok and now a bunch of US investors are getting fucked.
Oh no!
Anyway.
I wish all American investor dollars a very
permanent Chinese citizenship
My money’s just fine right here in my bank account. Plus some emergency cash in a drawer in my bedroom. I don’t know what the big deal is. Fuck 'em.
Sorry but your money in the bank isn’t fine, it gets slowly eaten by inflation. The inflation is designed in a way to stimulate your spending as saving them doesn’t make economic sense.
deleted by creator
🙄
I checked your post history out of curiosity if you are shill-bot. And while you apparently spend a non insignificant time writing about Bitcoin, you also wrote pretty smart things too and seem to be a decent person. You also seem engaged in tech and interested in doing good things with it.
Which confuses the fuck out of me how anyone like you could still argue in 2024 that Bitcoin is anything but a gigantic garbage fire. And not just Bitcoin. Pretty much all copycat crypto currencies it spawned.
Which is not to be confused with blockchain technology. That has some fringe use cases. It is a valid technology for certain databases in some pretty specific and relatively few instances. But except for very specific and seldom legal cases, the technology hsas pretty much proven it is noehere near a proper replacement for money in general.
So back to my point: How can someone who seems legitimately decent from most posts I saw, interested in technnology and most probably not having been hit on the head with a brick, write such a shill post with no particular purpose (at least from what I could gather)?
Obviously you don’t have to reply. I am fucking nobody, it’s your busniness and I am certainly not entitled into an answer. I am really just curious how after especially the last couple of years, after all the existences Bitcoin and it’s offspawns must have ruined, them not having provided any tangible benefits to humanity in the process, how can one still argue it could ever do anything good as a replacement for money. Bitcoins atrocious and devastating track record, I’d argue, tells you all you need to know. And crypto exchanges are just unregulated stock markets where you get scammed left and right.
Sorry for the rant, I expected a bot. Maybe you still are.
deleted by creator
As always, keep all your dollars in money
Removed by mod
I love how they are trying to make these wealthy investors sound like your average American. Get fucked losers.
Good headline NYT, but now tell me why their money is stuck. Is it perhaps because the US is trying to legislate a TikTok ban?
You posted the article - did you not also read it? The article talks about that factor, among others.
Maybe OP was stuck behind the paywall
If you are going to post something and then comment on it, you should at least read it yourself.
It’s not just Tick tock, according to this article.
