• USSBurritoTruck@startrek.websiteOPM
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    1 year ago

    Who said you can’t critique Disco?

    This is about a very specific, very silly objection, levelled by people who have found themselves indoctrinated into a mode of thinking that alienates them from the people around them, because of a manufactured fear preying upon alienation many of us experience in our modern world.

    I’ve had plenty of objections to aspects of Disco, especially during season two, but scattered throughout the series, and no one has ever called me a bigot for my hot takes. If you’re presenting your critiques in such a way that people are assuming you’re bigoted, perhaps you should reevaluate how you’re constructing your criticism.

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      11 months ago

      Ooooo I can do this too!

      STD had shit writing, unbelievable performances, and stands as a monument of what not to do making Trek. They did inclusion pretty well however, which I think opened the door to future, positive choices in the franchise.

      SNW did all these things correctly. (I’m 100% not biased because I’m crushin on Captain Angel)

      Picard S2 is legitimately the worst thing ever made in Star Trek. It physically hurt to try to finish it, and remains to this day the only Trek I skipped episodes of.

      LD is just perfect. No notes.

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        1 year ago

        Valid Criticisms:

        Max drama deviates from star trek standard format

        non episodic / arcs within arcs make it hard to jump in and follow

        Everyone talks too fast (lampooned on SNW | LD crossover even!) Deus Ex (Time Travel | AI | Etc.)

        MultiLithium gets really explody if you cry hard enough.

        Not Valid:

        Everything is too (Gender | Sexual Preference | Skin Color) for ST (these people have a vacation fuck planet, and regularly bone holocharacters, get over it we all know if Kirk had a holodeck he would have died in that thing).

        Mushroom warp is stupid (fuck you I loved mushroom warp).

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            1 year ago

            ha! That’s excellent. I was not in a position time-wise to watch DSC S1 when it actually aired, so I missed all these shenanigans. In retrospect it’s probably the best trek to binge (which I did) since many episodes feel more like parts of a movie instead of being self contained. I’m a fan of all trek, even Enterprise. :D

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                1 year ago

                From my perspective, I didnt start to appreciate it until the final season and then I wasnt even that bummed because I knew I wouldnt have to hear budget rod Stewart sing over an old Timey map with crew member power point transitions

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          1 year ago

          Okay so you’ll notice I didn’t have any specific criticisms of discovery listed, and people in this thread are calling me a bigot, dismissing my opinion, and being general assholes to me.

          There also is someone who comes in, implied that the legitimate criticisms that have nothing to do with identity politics are BS and the real reason OP doesn’t like Discovery is that they are a bigot.

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              1 year ago

              Oh fuck off. You are blatantly just an asshole using social justice as an excuse to justify your cruel behavior.

              50 years ago you’d be the type of person saying DnD players are satanists and bullying them in the name of Jesus.

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          1 year ago

          Why is that not valid though? It’s shoved in people’s faces. Why can’t they just have a normal relationship? Why bring it to the front and center?