The person who never won a primary is complaining about low voter turnout in a general election. Now THAT’S fucking rich!
I hate to say it, but she’s right. Trump was very clear about his plans. Anyone paying attention knew what was going to happen. Any sane person with a pulse would have won the election if the public wasn’t so apathetic, ignorant, and/or misinformed.
if the public wasn’t so apathetic, ignorant, and/or misinformed.
I don’t think all of the apathy is inherent. Some of that’s on her and the democratic party demoralizing their constituents. Yes, following game theory it is in their best interest to vote for the lesser evil and against the greater evil. I am politically active and I get that, so I voted.
Regardless, it still bothers me that a not insignificant portion of the Democratic party also knows this and takes advantage of this by coasting and doing the bare minimum. They seem more willing to spend their resources countering internal threats from progressives. It’s not easy to stay motivated to support a party openly hostile to your own values.
I wouldn’t be surprised if some of them would rather have a fascist opponent. Then voting comes down to, basically, vote for me because the alternative is fascism. How dare you question my policies (or lack thereof) or my soft stance our ally’s obvious genocide? I’m your only hope. Vote for me or else.
It only works for so long, then apathy takes over.
But doesn’t that just prove the point? These shitty Dems are allowed to exist because people don’t vote.
Yes, in part, and also because the party is actively trying to prevent those voters from getting the progressive candidates they want. It’s more blatant these days (Bush, Bowman, Mamdani) than it has been in the past, but it was still happening. They don’t want pressure from the left. They broke their promise to not support primary opponents (over incumbents) specifically when progressives started gaining ground. Many are openly hesitant to endorse Mamdani now if they aren’t openly skeptical or critical. Vote blue no matter who, eh?
More specially, people don’t vote in primaries or local elections.
Not that we really got a presidential primary in 2024, but yes.
Yeah… more thinking back to 2020 on the general. Not that we had that many options by the time they made it to my state.
The average American reads at a 7th grade reading level. You can bitch about it being the electorate’s fault when you lose an election, but there have always been uneducated voters and there always will be. If you’re a politician, you need to be able to reach all kinds of people; not just those with graduate degrees.
Democrats think doing politics is beneath them. They just need to be marginally better than Republicans and if they don’t get elected then it’s the voter’s fault.
It’s neither of those three. People thought they had the moral high ground by not voting for either evil. These people weren’t apathetic, ignorant, or misinformed. They were evil, selfish, and shortsighted.
I’m so fucking tired of that spin.
It’s like a restaurant owner who offered a crappy menu of poorly cooked food that nobody wanted in the first place blaming the restaurant’s failure on the people who refused to eat there.
… Except the alternative was someone shitting on all of the food in the county.
Except the ones that they cook at home, so they just stayed in.
Your analogy would be better in Australia where voting is compulsory.
The ones that stayed home still get shit in their food
This is the worst analogy I’ve ever seen
Am I so out of touch? No, it’s the children who are wrong.
We should run Mamdani in 2028. Those who know a little bit about presidential eligibility will cry that this can’t be done. Those that know more about presidential eligibility will recognize that it’s entirely possible for Mamdani to run for and serve as president.
I mean, this seems pretty cut and dry:
Article II, Section 1, Clause 5:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
It’s been argued, though notably not in the courts, that this is superceded by the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment.
Everyone knows what the current supreme court would make if it.
She’s talking up Hillary’s mantle, and that woman couldn’t put a sock in it for 40 years, while also thinking she was clever for getting Don on the ballot, nevermind worshipping at the altar of Kissenger.
Centrists look at both sides of the mirror and find the middle ground between reality and a black void.
How can she be this tone deaf? No one wants to hear from you, Kamala. Not the time. We’re dealing with the fallout of your horrid campaign.
I regret my Kamala vote (moreso my faith in her leading up to the election) more every day, and I am in despair over this administration.
lol
I love this take. “I regret voting for the person who wasn’t a fascist, I wish I had actually voted for the fascist. Real Lemmy Leftists™ like me don’t vote for democratic candidates and neither should you, zealous support for Trump is the only real way to bring down those evil Centrists!!!”
oooh~ so smart. No, I wasn’t going to vote for Trump. Nothing I said supported Trump. I specifically said I dislike this administration; yet Clearly backing Center-Right Biden and Kamala didn’t work, because it plunged us Back into fascism. Now, if you’d like to contribute something to how we could have avoided a Trump presidency, you can join me on what I’ve been spiraling on for the last year. Otherwise, keep it to yourself.
She’s RIGHT! If ONLY people Had SOMEONE to Vote for Trump would have LOST!
Why doesn’t she fight along people against Trump ruining the country?
People didn’t vote for her, nothing she can do now. They’ll just wait for the next election, sorry.
So I want to point out something interesting in the comments to this post:
There are two different segments of the comments, with wildly differing consensus views revealed in one segment versus the other (if you look at the votes). There’s the top three comments (at least as it shows up to me), who think Kamala Harris is a big meanie liberal who deserved what she got and why isn’t she helping us with Trump now. Then there’s the whole rest, where there’s actually a strong consensus along the lines of this:
Sore loser
Politicians aren’t athletes. She didn’t lose. The American people chose Trump. The American people lost.
… where the top comment is mildly downvoted, and the reply is heavily upvoted.
It is weird to me that there are two strata to it. I have a theory for why that is, but I am sometimes out of my mind, so I will simply point it out and that it’s weird.
Kamala is a lot of things, but she is not a liberal. I can have honest disagreements with a principled liberal, but the Democratic establishment abandoned liberal principals long ago.
What?
Sore loser. Trump is the president righ now that’s the reality so you have two options you fight against Trump with people and you just shut the F up
Sore loser
Politicians aren’t athletes. She didn’t lose. The American people chose Trump. The American people lost.
Politicians are worst than athlete when it comes to being sore losers. She lost the election and instead of just accepting the result and participate in the fight to prevent Trump for continuing the destroy the democracy in the US she keep blaming other people for losing the election
Why would she fight against trump? You guys keep demanding democrats stand up to trump and the moment one does you guys shit on them and break them down. You guys demanded old white Biden be removed and replaced with a younger candidate, so they replace him with an educated black woman and you guys are like “eeew not that”
If I were a democrat I would let you guys burn until you’re begging for me
You guys demanded old white Biden be removed and replaced with a younger candidate, so they replace him with an educated black woman and you guys are like “eeew not that”
I’m pretty sure I predicted that as soon as Biden was replaced, all the anguished whining about Biden would be replaced with anguished whining about his replacement (which was precisely what happened). Invariably that prediction was met with “HOW DARE YOU SAY WE SHOULD NOT REPLACE BIDEN” which is a whole new sentence.
The thing of taking Biden’s most massive and unforgivable sin (Gaza) and blaming it instantly on Harris also because why not she was in the building also, and how flawlessly that worked, is a big giveaway that it was never about addressing actual flaws in the actual Democratic candidate in the first place.
If I were a democrat I would let you guys burn until you’re begging for me
I mean, if you were a Democrat you would be still collecting campaign contributions and trying to figure out how to weather this current storm without it really upsetting your retirement account. I do think that a big part of the problem is that with a few rare exceptions, establishment Democrats and establishment Republicans are both largely shitty and craven, and so they are equally unmotivated to try to stop Trump in a real sense now that shit’s getting increasingly and increasingly real. Just listen to Pritzger talk something about his frustration trying to get any kind of support now that he’s stuck his neck way out in an absolutely vital fight which we have to win.
What we needed was major criminal trials on day 1, oriented around Jaunary 6th. What we needed was AOC leading the oversight committee. At an absolute bare minimum, stuff like that. There’s a lot of hate that goes towards the Democrats that is undeserved (and often specifically engineered to benefit Republicans and then bought into by suckers), but I do think it mostly only works because there’s a pretty solid grain of truth “Well you fucking guys are clearly not the answer, so why do you expect my support.” for it to all get artfully wrapped around to give additional strength.
How can you two contradictory statement back to back?
Why would she fight against trump?
You guys keep demanding democrats stand up to trump and the moment one does you guys shit on them and break them down
All what the article talk about is Harris crying about her defeat. I don’t know where do you that she is fighting back.
She may be great as prosecutor and attorney but politically only Trump beat her in stupidty
All what the article talk about is Harris crying about her defeat. I don’t know where do you that she is fighting back.
“I can be your champion. All I ask is your sword.”
But you smell
“Yes but the other guy literally said he would rape your wife, and also he burned down the village last time, and also he smells.”
He will be our champion
“Okay then, fuck you”
Okay number one, rude, number two, what are you doing to protect us against this guy? He raped my wife and I think that’s really fucked up. You didn’t even try to stop him or anything. And he has that big sword that we gave him.
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