swear to god, it can’t cost as much to add a headphone jack as big e-waste is trying to convince us it does. i won’t outright dismiss a phone because it doesn’t have a headphone jack, but it’s crazy to me that budget phones still have them and “nice” phones don’t
I’d love to have a fairphone, but none of their phones seem to have a home button, and they also have that stupid thing where the selfie camera is on the screen…
That was basically how the pre-lenovo Motorola phones were all built. Take the Nexus 6 for example, the edges were really thin, only a few mm, but the back curved so at the middle it was nearly a cm thick.
That phone was a goddamn tank I dropped my Nexus 6 down a flight of concrete stairs without a case and by some miracle only the plastic on one corner was scratched. I stopped at HTC One down those exact same stairs and it disintegrated before it hit stair 3.
Its honestly all making me think I should build a palmtop and shove a 5g module in it. Screw text messaging (matrix), screw phone service (I’ll just set up VoIP), who needs a play store when ive got apt repos.
I don’t care if it feels like 2007 in my pocket. I’ll stick an 18650 or two in there and swap it when I need to. I can even be more ridiculous and make the keyboard mechanical.
To answer your question before its asked, yes, there is plenty wrong with me. Still though.
I still have an old Archos Jukebox that runs off weird green Double As and a hard drive. Everything else, including the screen, needed replacing before the aux jack had even an inkling of a problem.
My wired cheap phones that I used almost daily for online meetings and calls is 11 yo, and still works normally. I doubt a cheap wireless would be close to last that much. I don’t even treat it with obsessive care or anything.
Bone conduction bluetooth headphones has me. I have some audio processing issues, and being able to hear people on the phone… I’ll never go back
I’m no audiophile and honestly can just grab my old ipod and wired headphones if I really wanna jam, or usbc-aux dongle with my phone. But my use case tends to be more forgiving than some
Bluetooth in-ear buds can get fucked. Never found an earpiece that stays in… they’re just not for me. Wired or bone conduction for me
I know what you mean, but just in case anyone has a pair of these I feel obligated to mention it’s relatively trivial to replace the battery packs inside, so maybe don’t just throw them away.
i mean sure, but the problem is that you then have a wire to worry about. I feel like bluetooth has been standard for so long that everyone has forgotten how incredibly annoying wired headphones are…
Does cord noise bother you? The last few times I’ve tried to use wired headphones, I was incredibly annoyed by the sounds created by the cord touching stuff.
You can buy non-microphonic cables for pretty cheap. Bought a 7€ hama cable for an old pair of Philips 2xhr headphones and it was completely silent.
IEM/earbud cables are a little trickier, but there are plenty of sub 20€ cables online that are good. Microphonics is only really a problem with carelessly designed or very cheaply made cables.
Are you using a smooth / rubber cord or one of those rough, braided cords? I usually use modified KOSS headphones and some Verisonix cups. They’ve all got smooth cords, so I almost never notice if it touches things, but I’m mostly wearing on-ear / open backed headphones that wouldn’t likely transmit that too much.
I honestly wouldn’t mind a thick phone if it also included aux port and larger battery.
IS IT SO MUCH TO ASK FOR A PHONE THAT CAN BE MAINTAINED AND SURVIVE LIFE!?
sorry to yell. i just feel like i’m going crazy
Fairphone is the closest we have. It’s trivial to replace battery and other components.
It doesn’t have 3.5mm jack.
FP3 does
Just let it go.
swear to god, it can’t cost as much to add a headphone jack as big e-waste is trying to convince us it does. i won’t outright dismiss a phone because it doesn’t have a headphone jack, but it’s crazy to me that budget phones still have them and “nice” phones don’t
Never. Ever. There’s dozens of us that use it all the time.
I’d love to have a fairphone, but none of their phones seem to have a home button, and they also have that stupid thing where the selfie camera is on the screen…
Honestly would spend thousands on a modern phone with a 16:9 display and no selfie cam notch
I just want a modern day equivalent to an iPhone 5s. That phone was peak smartphone.
Is the home button the middle round button on Android? Do you mean a physical button like on Iphone?
Physical button like on older Iphones, of course.
Yep, it’s practically way too much to ask from manufacturers who want to sell you a new phone every year or two.
so long as the corners are sloped/rounded, phones can be like 1cm thick no problem, and i truly do not understand the obsession with thinner phones
our hands are curved, why do people want a bunch of empty space between the palm and the phone? might as well fill that space with battery.
That was basically how the pre-lenovo Motorola phones were all built. Take the Nexus 6 for example, the edges were really thin, only a few mm, but the back curved so at the middle it was nearly a cm thick.
That phone was a goddamn tank I dropped my Nexus 6 down a flight of concrete stairs without a case and by some miracle only the plastic on one corner was scratched. I stopped at HTC One down those exact same stairs and it disintegrated before it hit stair 3.
I still have mine its amazing and will outlive me.
objectively superior design
Its honestly all making me think I should build a palmtop and shove a 5g module in it. Screw text messaging (matrix), screw phone service (I’ll just set up VoIP), who needs a play store when ive got apt repos.
I don’t care if it feels like 2007 in my pocket. I’ll stick an 18650 or two in there and swap it when I need to. I can even be more ridiculous and make the keyboard mechanical.
To answer your question before its asked, yes, there is plenty wrong with me. Still though.
If you get around to making two, I’ll buy the second one off of you.
(Sent from my GPD Win Max 2…)
I just want a modern phone in the body of an iPhone 5S (with an edge-to-edge display instead of the home button)
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I don’t even know what I’d use an aux port for at this point
Better headphones than Bluetooth ones, at a fraction of the price, and without a built in death date due to the batteries (permanently) dying?
Im a wired headphones person and even I think that battery death is a bullshit reason.
The jack jack has a finite number of uses, as does the flexibility of the wire, many other components also aren’t indestructible.
I still have an old Archos Jukebox that runs off weird green Double As and a hard drive. Everything else, including the screen, needed replacing before the aux jack had even an inkling of a problem.
My wired cheap phones that I used almost daily for online meetings and calls is 11 yo, and still works normally. I doubt a cheap wireless would be close to last that much. I don’t even treat it with obsessive care or anything.
I’ve had the same Bluetooth headphones for about as long though wouldn’t call them cheap
Bone conduction bluetooth headphones has me. I have some audio processing issues, and being able to hear people on the phone… I’ll never go back
I’m no audiophile and honestly can just grab my old ipod and wired headphones if I really wanna jam, or usbc-aux dongle with my phone. But my use case tends to be more forgiving than some
Bluetooth in-ear buds can get fucked. Never found an earpiece that stays in… they’re just not for me. Wired or bone conduction for me
Same here. $90 for my shockz and I wear them 98% of my waking hours.
I know what you mean, but just in case anyone has a pair of these I feel obligated to mention it’s relatively trivial to replace the battery packs inside, so maybe don’t just throw them away.
Or do, whatever, more free electronics for me ;)
Im a wired headphones person and even I think that battery death is a bullshit reason.
The jack jack has a finite number of uses, as does the flexibility of the wire, many other components also aren’t indestructible.
i mean sure, but the problem is that you then have a wire to worry about. I feel like bluetooth has been standard for so long that everyone has forgotten how incredibly annoying wired headphones are…
Still using wired headphones here. They’re great. Have to use the fucking USBC adapter, but it’s worth it.
Does cord noise bother you? The last few times I’ve tried to use wired headphones, I was incredibly annoyed by the sounds created by the cord touching stuff.
You can buy non-microphonic cables for pretty cheap. Bought a 7€ hama cable for an old pair of Philips 2xhr headphones and it was completely silent.
IEM/earbud cables are a little trickier, but there are plenty of sub 20€ cables online that are good. Microphonics is only really a problem with carelessly designed or very cheaply made cables.
Are you using a smooth / rubber cord or one of those rough, braided cords? I usually use modified KOSS headphones and some Verisonix cups. They’ve all got smooth cords, so I almost never notice if it touches things, but I’m mostly wearing on-ear / open backed headphones that wouldn’t likely transmit that too much.
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