• Aljernon@lemmy.today
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    Too many guys take it as a swipe at their ability to please their partner when a woman needing a vibrator typically has zero to do with his ability to get her off and everything to do with her ability to get off.

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    I’m not emasculated by it, and very much enjoy it. Hitachi magic wands are so much fun. Thrusting rabbits are a delight.

    But….

    The ones that are realistic penis replicas….

    I get a bit turned off looking down and seeing a veiny flesh-colored penis in my hand. Just kinda takes me out of the moment. If I were bi, I’m sure it’d be lovely. But it’s just not for me.

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      There’s always something for everyone and not everyone is into everything. As long as there’s consent, respect for needs and boundaries, and communication, no one ever needs to feel innadequate in the bedroom.

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    Sometimes you just don’t have time. Like, brother… Come on… I’m almost 40. It’s not as easy to jackhammer my wife at the perfect angle for 25 straight minutes anymore. It’s better for everyone, her included, if she helps rub that shit out and we can both be asleep by 10pm. We have work tomorrow, and you know our daughter’s going to come pitter-pattering in here at 4:30am to say she’s hungry because she couldn’t be fucked to eat more than two beans and a half a chicken tender the night prior.

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      Plus if you’re the type to get more satisfaction from your partner’s pleasure than your own (which I’m hoping goes for everyone reading this), if toys help her come more times, why wouldn’t you do it? I know I always enjoyed it more that way, SHE was the one who didn’t want it too often lol

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        Try being a parent before judging one. Everything here rings true to someone with a young child and bills to pay.

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        Thanks for letting me know what that sounded like. Next time I’ll add an /s at the end so that the dim individuals among us (not you, of course…) can more easily recognize humor on a sub that’s devoted to it.

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          Well, people arent immutable, and romance and intimacy develops over time. I’d say a guy or girl who needs very specific conditions to orgasm has some intimacy issues. I’d imagine people might not want to be with people who have hangups like that.

          Oh my bad, sorry, I meant to say everyone’s perfect the way they are, of course.

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    She took a perfectly fine point (toys can be used in sex and enrich the play)…and then formulated in a way that would indeed be off-putting to plenty of guys.

    Toys should not become LeBron James of your sex, “earning more points” and leaving partner on the sideline. They should be useful assistants at reaching the peak pleasure.

    As long as the point is “my partner can drive me even hornier with this” - it is super healthy and great. But when the toy itself becomes the focus, it’s not great. She could masturbate much to the same success.

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      Comedians often take things to the extreme for comedic effect. If that were the case, the vibrator wouldn’t literally be LeBron James, but maybe Karl Mslone, who is made way better with John Stockton (the vib, if it wasn’t obvious) setting him up.

      Too bad there’s no way to know, like a community name or the person’s name in the image itself…

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      Even if it was the case that the vibrator did more heavy lifting in any given encounter I certainly wouldn’t want to be told in this way

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    Wonder how she’d feel if instead of her needing a physical aid, it would be him needing a visual aid.

    It’s like, if Mia Khalifa is on your team … Are you mad that she scored more points than you?

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      The nuance I feel you might be overlooking is your so-called visual aid is just someone else’s hot bod (as much as it is mostly artificial) and it might signal to your partner that you don’t find her physique attractive enough, whereas the use of sex toys or physical aids as you put it would be your partner’s way of signaling that her pleasure is not exclusively centered on your penis or its size. Even in phallic shaped toys designed for penetration, there’s always something else reputable manufacturers include, be it vibration, texture, shape, simultaneous clitoral stimulation, suction, etc. And none of these are meant to substitute your own physique and the intimacy you bring to the table (or the bed, or the couch, or the shower hehe).

      I think the poster below makes a good point that toys designed for men such as fleshlights would be a more apt comparison. And the reverse for the example you provide would be something akin to needing the visual aid of Johnny Sins to get off. If we were to talk about getting off during your little lovemaking session by the chemistry and the fantasy on screen in porn - and both parties were ok with and equally excited by it -, then I’d also find no issue with that (albeit, I do think there are healthier ways to go about).

      When it comes to sex, it all eventually comes down to communication and respect. And if your boundaries to feeling comfortable draw a line against using sex toys, then that’s you and your partner needs to respect your feelings as well. I just feel like it’s a shame if people are missing out, because their own insecurities equate a dildo or a vibrator (or whatever) to a substitute for your penis, your body, and your active role during sexy times, because they definitely are not.

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      If the guy has trouble reaching orgasm, sure. But in most straight relationships I’m familiar with it tends to go the other way, where the female partner needs more help to finish.

      An e-bike wouldn’t do much for Jonas Vingegaard, but it can be a game changer for someone who struggles with gentle hills.

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        in most straight relationships I’m familiar with

        So because it doesn’t happen to you, it doesn’t happen to anyone. Ok.

        It’s probably a little bit rarer than the other way around, but male anorgasmia exists especially as men get older.

        But as usual, male feelings and sexual problems are ridiculed and swept under the rug as unimportant.

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          That is emphatically not what I said.

          I was just sharing my experience since it informed the way I interpreted the joke. I think it makes sense for her to talk about using a vibrator with partners since that’s probably something she has experienced.

          Casting this joke as ‘male feelings being ridiculed’ is so strange. She’s talking about her own feelings, making light of the expectations her partners have set.

          It’s not bigoted or mean spirited. The joke is fine.

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      they are different senses, doesn’t really work as an analogy

      a super tight fleshlight would probably work better, which can also vibrate

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        they are different senses, doesn’t really work as an analogy

        It works just fine. Men tend to be more visually oriented, for women the physical part is often the limiting factor to reach a climax.

        In both cases something external is added to get over the other party’s “inadequacies”.

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        Dont even need that, plenty of dudes have issues where they prefer porn and masturbation to intimacy with their partner.

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          i dont have a partner, but i am (trying) to get over a porn/masturbation addiction myself right now…it’s…way tougher than it feels like it should be, but then i guess really thinking back it’s an addiction i’v had nearly 15+ years now.

          so i guess it’s no surprise some people have that issue continue while being in relationship

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            Its a much bigger societal problem than people want to admit. Good on you for admitting its an addiction, being aware of negative consequences is a big part of overcoming something. There are support groups for this stuff and it can help to have people who you can talk to that yoy might be embarrassed to talk to friends and family about.

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    Vibrators are fine but when I whip out the premium™️ silicone vagina / asshole combo with a high speed self lubricating vortex cervix and the 36GG BIG TIDDY™️ attachment with Alexa integration I’m ruining he mood 🙄

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    See, men are told by movies and stories that they need to be “the hero” (singular) not “best team player” or “important helper”. nope. main character or bust.

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    I’ve dated a couple of girls who can’t get off without a vibrator.

    It’s hard to get mad at that. They’ve got their thing and it works. If your dick or tongue can’t shake at 30 wiggles a second, why complain? So long as we both get off by the end of it, everyone has a good time.

    What’s the problem?

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      Equally, I’ve hooked up with some guys who struggle to get off during sex itself (which may be because the grip one uses while masturbating may be firmer than what one experiences during sex).

      Having slept with both women and men, I feel like the pressure to reach orgasm seems like it’s bad for everyone. One dude I knew felt super insecure about not getting off, which stemmed from a previous partner taking it personally. It’s certainly the case that for some men, it can feel uncomfortable to have sex and not reach orgasm. However, I think that everyone would have a better time if people decoupled satisfaction from orgasm.

      If I wanted to be certain that I’d get off, then the use of a vibrator helps a lot. That’s not necessarily my goal though; some of the best sex I’ve ever had didn’t result in me reaching orgasm, and I find it frustrating when people don’t understand that this is possible (I find this problem more common with men). Of course, that’s just personal to me — some people may consider reaching orgasm to be an essential part of “good sex”, but that’s why good communication is the best skill one can develop for better sex.

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        I’m one of those guys that struggles to orgasm. Even masturbating I will sometimes last a really long time. It’s more a mood thing than a sensation thing for me. I have to have my mind in the right state to orgasm. The good thing about it is I can have sex for as long as my partner wants often.

        It’s odd, because usually men are the ones who leave their partners wanting. For me my partners pretty much always get more than they bargained for, but I’m frequently left without orgasming. It’s fine though. It’s still plenty enjoyable without it.

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          Wouldn’t hurt to get your progesterone levels checked. If you can get hard but are unable to cum it could be too high

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        The stories you’ve lived are the ones that seem more meaningful. For a guy, climax is a given, and sometimes the whole point just for maintenance purposes. The wholesome joy of a thing is made impure by ulterior motives. It took me a while to see it from the other side.

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      If your dick or tongue can’t shake at 30 wiggles a second, why complain?

      I would imagine for the same reason that women complain about men who cant cum without their pornhub deathgrip…

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        Agree. People dont like being replaced with meaningless objects. People can also rationalize and become used to nearly anything.

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    Well putting it like that is kinda belittling. I hear it as “well, sorry, you ain’t no LeBron James.” Is that the joke?

    Not the sentiment though. If the woman wants some fun with a vibrator, go to town! Tell me to jump, and I’ll ask how high. Get your partner to have fun, however they want; it is not that complicated.

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    She gets hers and he gets his. Wheres the problem?
    Maybe ask her if you can do anything to replace the vibrator and when she says you can vibrate her clit with your dick at 50 Hz, you tell her to just use the vibrator.

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      Perhaps his is making his partner climax on his own. I don’t think it has to be an emasculation thing I think the idea that you and solely you are the thing that your partner finds the most sexually stimulating to be inticing