i’m unbothered and frankly, glad, that transphobia appears to be a primary reason. in what way does that cheapen or negatively change the morality of the act? the demonizing and dehumanizing of people like me is responsible for the deaths of people like me. being turned into a national boogeyman has made it more unsafe for millions and millions of americans, many who are cisgender women trying to use the bathroom, and one of the biggest voices responsible for legitimizing it all is now gone and the person who did it did so to reduce direct harm to trans people. it is a calculable net positive for us all. anything resulting from this act as retribution isn’t a fault of the action if the action is just. that would be to cede ground to unreasonable voices. blame the minds of those who respond to it with their own violence and their reasons for doing so.
preventing further widespread national harm and death by eliminating the source of the spread is a good thing and if the person who did it ended up doing it because of the decedent’s own words and positions then so the fuck what? they were murderous positions to spread and encourage. words are not simply words; opinions are not merely statements of thought. you should face consequences for stochastically stoking the flames of fascism. using bigotry to take advantage of poor people who are disenfranchised and uneducated is despicable, it is ghastly, it is unforgivable. my identity is not a threat to anyone. protecting me is not murder, it is self-defense.
This shouldn’t be an unpopular opinion. It’s absurd to consider Kirk’s death (that’s what we’re talking about, right?) as anything other than a net positive. There are zero reasons that you shouldn’t be allowed to exist without constant fear of people like him.
Yeah, yeah I know we’re all constantly told that violence isn’t the answer…by people with a vested interest in keeping us all docile and unthreatening. I don’t care that he’s dead. I don’t care if fascists are afraid for their lives — who knows, maybe it’ll magically teach them to feel empathy for how you must feel all the time. I doubt it, but hope springs eternal.
It’s absurd to consider Kirk’s death (that’s what we’re talking about, right?) as anything other than a net positive.
That depends on what happens next. If the floodgates open and this sort of thing becomes the new norm, it’s not just going to be people you or I consider reprehensible who get shot.
I don’t care that he’s dead.
Neither do I, and I hate that a dead b-list podcaster is dominating the dialog in this country right now. Id hate it regardless of who the b-list podcaster was or what he believed in.
U think Kirk was a fascist? He was the moderate position. Nick Fuentes an actual fuckin Nazi gained 100k viewers in one stream after the assassination. And calling him a Nazi (which he actually is) is going to be completely useless because everyone in the centre or moderate right have been getting called that for years now. Wolf was cried so many times that now the actual wolves are out nobody is going to take u seriously.
Also picking a physical fight with the us Republican was the worst possible target. 45% of Republican voters own guns 20% of democrat voters own guns, 65% of military members vote Republican. If a civil war does kick off the Republicans will be 2 for 2 when it comes to winning.
Yes, he was a fascist.
No, I don’t care about calling Nick Fuentes anything. If we’re exceptionally lucky, he’ll hit himself in the head hard enough to realize what a useless tool he is. I’d also accept him smacking himself hard enough to put himself into a coma, I’m not picky.
Finally, no one cares about how many guns Republicans have. As people, they seem to be (by and large) useless parasites that make nothing. If they kill the rest of us, it just puts the nail in the coffin for themselves that much faster.
Source?
I think u will start to care when they start using said guns. And 90% of the engineers I’ve met are right wing so I think the world would continue to function.
Oh no, how will we ever do without 90% of the engineers you’ve anecdotally met.
lol bye.
Well us engineers invent, design, and know how to build literally everything so hood luck with the stone age.
Also I asked for a source showing Kirk is a fascist u gonna provide one?
Fancy way of justifying violence. Maybe the real fascists will use your words as they drag u off to a camp?
what do you mean “the real fascists?” 🤣 - you take issue with my labeling because of what, exactly? this is textbook fascism.
Charlie was the moderate position. Nick Fuentes is the real fascist and the assassination of Charlie give him 100k viewers in 1 stream. Nick is a legitimate real fucking Nazi who actually wants people like you and anyone who isn’t white to be killed. Charlie didn’t want that but now he’s dead so the real Nazis get to come out and play. The assassination of Charlie opened the Overton window large enough to accommodate political violence the Nazis will get more use from that than anyone on the left.
I take issue with ur labeling because expressing speech that you don’t agree with isn’t fascist its the foundation of democracy and liberty. Ur labeling of that as fascist only makes the impact of calling the real fascists fascist ineffective.
The amount of ignorance you have displayed here is astonishing. You do not know a goddamn thing about Charlie Kirk and his role in Trump’s image and popularity. Charlie held fascist beliefs and spread those beliefs and encouraged others to act on them. Of course Nick is more open with his messaging but that is what made Charlie so dangerous.
edit: i didn’t realize believing gay people should be stoned to death was the moderate position lmao
I think ur the one being ignorant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJmcqjP8mhk
…that was in 2019, please pay attention. Charlie Kirk’s politics have changed wildly since then. you are further proving your ignorance.
Its usually considered good etiquette that when someone provides a source for a claim their correspondent is requited to provide a source to disprove it.
Nobody owes you shit. You’re a fascist sealion.
