• StinkyFingerItchyBum@lemmy.ca
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              I tried once. I’m hardwired with compassion and a strong moral and ethical framework.

              Last time I tried so hard at employee wage theft and I ended up giving my guys a bonus and the afternoon off. I’m just not cut-out for fascist oligarchy.

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        It’s only ok if you destroy the books in the process. Eating the pages as you read them is the most convenient way. So free food AND free books!

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      Just download digital copies of the textbooks and say you need them as training material for your own AI dataset when the copyright holders come after you.

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        I’m training a neural network. It’s just that the neural network is 1 layer with zero data reduction -so it’s only capable of printing the text exactly as the source material on my computer! AI finally works!

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      Countless dystopian novels have explored machine‘s human rights but the machines have already been granted more rights than us in our own dystopia. 💀

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      You don’t have libraries in the schools there in the USA? (It is a question, not sarcasm or something)

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        We do. The issue is at the college/university level, most courses require specific edition textbooks (they update them every 1-2 years) that the professors assign homework questions out of. You’ll be lucky if the school library has a copy more recent than the last 8 years.
        Then on top of that, many professors will also use digital 3rd party homework services that are tied to a textbook access code that you only get with a new copy. So unless you pay up you can’t do homework and fail the class.

        The whole system is fucking bullshit

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          My university (well, typically the professor) usually made sure there was at least one copy of the current course’s text book in the library. Yes, that means there was exactly one copy available for us poor students to share. At least it was put on the “reference” list so no one could take it home - just study it in the library and then put it back on the shelf. I don’t know if that’s possible now that they are going to digital editions.

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      it’s fine when the theft flows up the pyramid. it’s not fine when the theft is us stealing back what was always ours

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      Yes, one would expect human intelligence to benefit quite a lot from free access to information.

      Become a more common occurrence too. Possibly an effect much stronger than that of AI requiring lots of computation with unpredictable shittiness of the output.

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      You can’t defeat the fascist mental illness with logic. Fascism is a fusion of corporation and state. The only rule of law is whatever the dictator(s) believe protects their regimes/corporations profits.

      In this case, Americas big tech — of which Trump recently merged some with the military — has determined copyright laws should not apply to them, and Trump is voicing their opinion (he doesn’t know how anything works).

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        You can’t defeat the fascist mental illness with logic.

        More generally, you can’t reason people out of an opinion that they didn’t reason their way into in the first place.

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      You can’t be expected to have a successful AI program without the release of the full text of the Epstein files (minus protection for the victims, of course).

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      Sssh. This might be the first time in the last 100 years copyright isn’t EXPANDED for the benefit of publishers. I’ll hold my breath until we see if they figure out a way to reduce copyright only for silicon valley corporations while expanding it for the rest of us. Or not…

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    So what he’s saying is the billionaires funding ai can’t afford to do it legitimately

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      Of course not! If they did then they’d be several fractions of a billion less wealthy!

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        Copyright means a legal protection showing you own your own works: words written, audio recorded, and artwork created.

        With exceptions for nonprofit and parody, others cannot use your work to do businesss with without your written permission.

        Poor people apparently don’t get that.

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    So, hypothetically speaking, if I pirate a bunch of stuff and I get caught, I can claim I used it to train an AI model and all charges are dropped? (According to his statement, not current applicable laws)

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      I needed to pirate that extensive game, movie, and porn library to train a gaming, movie, and porn recomendation model

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      Theres a common misconception that downloading data is illegal when it’s generally sharing is what gets you in trouble. There are very few people who get fined for piracy downloads around the world.

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        I believe it’s mostly illegal for both parties, but in practice less often enforced for the downloading party, as this enforcement would require too much resources for the enforcing side.

        To give concrete examples, downloading pirated material is illegal in both the U.S and in Sweden, and afaik the latter is on par with the rest of the EU.

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    So why can’t I read them for free too? Only massive billion dollar companies get stuff for free?

    I would like to announce that I am pioneering a new AI program. Give me access to all of the movies for free please.

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    Yep when Napster just linked people who shared files between them, it was the end of the world. So it’s fine when it’s bigtech / AI?

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      Yes, there are people who want to have authority and think that if they got to the very top - Google, Meta, whatever, or some government, - then their ideas about authority have become law.

      In fact, of course, they are just jerks who’ll drop the soap at every step in prison for the rest of their lives when the problem is finally rectified, and it’s being slowly rectified.

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        What are you talking about? Things seem to be rapidly deteriorating to me. There are no problems being rectified.

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          The situation has been made possible by the enormous trust in progress and “technical fashion” that existed recently, that seems to be drying out.

          Say, 10-15 years ago offline-enabled means of communication were a matter of toys for people with no clear idea of future.

          Now people going to protests use them, and the dangers of mainstream Internet services and platforms are also common knowledge.

          So there is some immunity being formed. It’s even better that this happens slowly. I would be worried if this were some fashion spreading rapidly, but now we can see one crowd using Briar, another crowd using Bridgefy, another crowd jumping on Jack Dorsey’s Bitchat, LoRa and Meshtastic growing in popularity, all those things picking different approaches to the same goal, which signifies evolutionary convergence onto a commonly understood set of problems.

          People who were simping for corps no longer do. People who were simping for social media no longer do. People simping for Apple and Google and MS seem to be a rare kind now.

          The response is happening.

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            I hope your right. It’s nice to see questioning of America tech gaint’s monopolies finally now Trump is making America not seaming a safe supplier. More Europe than the UK, but even here, it’s not as fringe to perceive the problem now.

            Not enough yet though. Amazon for example has a load of the market, avoids tax’s and has loads of stuff that isn’t really legal in the market because it doesn’t meet the regs. Example, domestic socket EV chargers (granny leads) should be only up to 10A (as it consistent load and wiring quality varies), but most on Amazon are 13A and a few 16A! Hello house fire. Let alone fake CE marking and EMC emissions.

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      My thoughts exactly. You can’t expect to have a successful file sharing system if you have to get permission for everything you distribute, you guys!

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        Well, there are some very successful file sharing systems. That horse did bolt with Napster.

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    And that’s why I have an AI training library of movies and TV stored up.

    I’ll get around to training an AI on it any day now, I’m sure.

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    Settle down, nerds. TACO just read from the card they gave him. He doesn’t think anything about AI. Of course, he’ll make the wrong decisions and cause utter chaos and strife but it’s not like he has an actual opinion about AI.

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    “I need it for my business plan to work out” is not a great legal argument for when you’re trying to override others rights.