According to officers of the Israeli military’s Southern Command, the shelling was aimed at maintaining order at food distribution sites, but the army has since shifted to “other methods.”
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Death death to the idf
they were protecting the crowd from the Oxycodone laced flour they hand out
Death, death to the IOF!
Death, Death to the IDF!
EDIT: To better express my point - I’m East European who with boiling blood hate levels against Russia. I have never said “Death to russians”. I do say “Support Ukraine”. See the difference? Honestly, would not surprise me if half of lemmy does not.
Your extremism approach to the problem aside - note that IDF is mandatory to everyone who reaches 18 with some exceptions, which means the same people who report Israeli atrocities to the media and never wanted to be part of this, is now in your call for death.
Since IDF is mandatory to nearly every Israeli citizen, that also means you’re essentially calling for genocide while saying genocide is bad. Do you feel morally conflicted, or are you like the people you hate?
EDIT2: Ehh lemmy… allahu akbar, death to america and give me upvotes, is this how we talk now?
He said death to the idf not death to israelis. So your example is trash. I am sure you are ok with russians soldiers dying in ukraine
I am sure you are ok with russians soldiers dying in ukraine
Of course. I’m also ok with Israelis dying in Palestine. You guys are seriously missing my point.
You are the one missing the point. The only place where idf dies is in palestine
There is barely any difference as IDF is mandatory amongst Israeli people
Same with nazis . Mandatory or not it is valid to kill soldiers in wars
“Death to Russians” is not an equivalent phrase to wishing death to the military and you know that. And don’t start on the mandatory service shit. Every citezen has the option of 1. Taking some jail time 2. Converting to Ultraorthadox Judaism or 3. Leaving Israel. There’s no excuse to join the baby killer Brigade we call the IDF.
I honestly don’t know the short for Russian army, everyone just says Russians here. I still meant the same thing as army is now mandatory in Russia.
Plenty of people did abandon their lives and families and moved to a country they can’t even speak in, but it’s not an easy choice by any means.
IDF is an institute, you can wish its demise without it being understood as death to all conscripted Israelis. Putting aside that as a settler-colonial project founded on ethnic cleansing, no one in Israel is innocent, only varying degrees of culpability. Even more so when they have been constantly voting for extremist and genocidal politicians, and the one prime minister that was willing to make peace with the Palestinians got assassinated.
Would you morally object to “Death to the Hitler Youth”? how about “Death to Nazis”?
allahu akbar
How do you feel about churches being bombed and Christians being killed by the IDF?
death to America
Similarly, this doesn’t imply death to all residents of the USA some of which are Muslims.
How do you feel about churches being bombed and Christians being killed by the IDF?
Not sure why you’re asking me that. I’m not from a christian country and I generally don’t have a favourable opinion towards religions in general.
All in all, your comments and knowledge seems to be full of holes.
For example:
Even more so when they have been constantly voting for extremist and genocidal politicians
No, Netanyahu did not win the popular vote like Trump in US, he only got something like 20%.
Do you truly, honestly believe that people shooting starving kids in bread lines are morally conflicted about the genocide they are committing? Nobody is forcing them to shoot at bread lines. They choose to do it.
I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about generalization. Not all black people are thieves, you know? Plenty of people from IDF have spoken up and plenty of jewish people have been protesting against everything that’s happening. My point was simply that calling for mass execution of a group of people makes you morally questionable too.
I’m not talking about that.
You can’t just ignore the genocide because it makes your point weak.
Black people are born black and cannot change that. Jews are born that way and cannot change it. Nobody is born in the IDF.
You can’t just ignore the genocide because it makes your point weak.
What? You literally make no sense, because my point was about genocide. You calling for genocide against a group doing the genocide when said group is also full of people who were forced into IDF and constantly help the media and world see what’s truly going on does not make you the morally highest creature.
Americans don’t scream “Death to police”, they scream “Defund the police”. Your choice of words would make you a fine addition to ranking officers of IDF, you get my point?
Do you think it’s too extreme to say ‘death to nazis’?
Depends what you mean by that. If you mean nazi germany, then yes, killing entire nation because of corrupt leadership is bad, okay? Are we clear on that? The WW2 result was better than what some of you would have done to the Germans. Don’t become the person you hate.
You can answer your own question but by changing roles - Can people yell “Kill Palestinians” because of corrupt Hamas leadership? Do you see how stupid that question is?
EDIT: Are you guys acting stupid on purpose?
Why are you defending baby killers
Why are you missing basic comprehension skills?
You can go to prison for the duration of the service instead of participating in genocide. Anyone who doesn’t do that is actively choosing to commit genocide.
It’s genuinely not that easy and ruins your future chances of having a good life. Just the fact alone that the jail time is looped as long as you refuse to serve IDF, ending your jail time with another draft is… dark.
Getting shot in a breadline also ruins your future chances at a good life. Being bombed in your hospital bed ruins your future chances of having a good life. Do you deny the genocide in Gaza?
I don’t understand why you keep asking me that question and I keep having to answer yes for you to stop going offtopic
Because you keep begging for sympathy towards those who choose to commit genocide. You are pretending like there is some moral quandary here where none exists.
Begging for sympathy? More like making sure you and this website does not get flagged as an extremist place with no moderation, seeing the same fate as multiple chans and freedom boards. Me wanting others to stop acting like extremists does not equal me defending IDF. You being a piece of shit towards the group whose opinion you want to change ruins your own chances of swaying said people’s opinions.
Military does not drop flyers saying “death to you”, they drop flyers saying “stop serving the army and we will help you”.
Still not getting my point? Damn I’m too European for this platform
I take it to mean “disband” the IDF
if the extreme right can be loose with the meaning of words, so can we
The shelling was aimed at maintaining order
My god this makes my brain hurt from the dissonance. Pigs
I don’t see what the big deal is.
I regularly launch artillery strikes on the local food bank to make sure everything is orderly and safe.
… “inaccurate and uncalculated” artillery fire.
They only meant to drop shells near the aid stations, to keep the bad guys away. Gazans should make quantum leaps from where they are to inside the aid stations, without passing through the space near the aid stations. Duh.
What in the parabolic FUCK are they talking about?! Beyond being a nauseating atrocity, the IDF statement is c/noncredibledefense levels of war-as-satire. There is no stockade big enough. The common 120mm mortar has a lethal radius of 30m from the point of impact, and has been given a 10% probability of ‘incapacitation’ at 100m. A common M795 155m high explosive howitzer shell will generally have a ‘kill radius’ of 50m, with fragmentation spreading significantly further.
In Freedom Units, if one of those 155s hit the middle of a football field, everyone on the field is dead, and everyone in the stadium catches shrapnel.
Ah yes, the shelling of a desperate crowd to bring order. Makes sense… /s
by Joep Bertrams
artillery fire as a method of crowd control?
More like population control.
Translation error, I think the actual term was “blowing up starving civilians”
*war crimes
Also notice how the long distance, chaotic distribution, and heavy aid boxes force families to self-select their strongest person, who would also be most able to put up a fight to defend their family. Then the IDF is gunning them down when they’re in the chute, leaving starving women and children that are easily disposed of.
Why do they need guns? They are starving, is that not evil enough?
Not evil enough for the idf
