• volvoxvsmarla @lemm.ee
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    10 hours ago

    I’m an absolute noob when it comes to tech and I don’t even know what instance I am on and how this matters to be honest.

    • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.orgOP
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      I don’t even know what instance I am on.

      You are on Lemm.ee. Unfortunately, this is the instance this post is about.

      and how this matters to be honest.

      In about 17 days, you will no longer be able to login with your lemm.ee account. You should sign up for an account on any other instance. Examples include lemmy.sdf.org (the one I’m on) or any of the sites listed here: https://join-lemmy.org/instances

      Lemmy (and PieFed and mBin, but I’m just going to talk about Lemmy for simplicity) attempts to provide an experience inspired by Reddit, but not controlled exclusively by one party. Loosely speaking, where Reddit is only one website and the whole social network belongs solely to Reddit, the social network spanned by Lemmy is actually a bunch of smaller websites that talk to each other. If the Reddit website goes down, the whole social network is down. If a Lemmy instance goes down, only that little part of network goes down.

      Unfortunately, the admins of your instance have politely posted that your instance is going down on June 30th. This applies to you and anyone whose username ends in @lemm.ee, but it does not apply to (for example) me because I am not a user on your instance. (I am on lemmy.sdf.org, which you can infer from my full username @PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org, which ends with @lemmy.sdf.org.)

      Which instance you pick depends on what you want to see, what kind of administration you want, your political beliefs and how important they are, and who you want to be allowed to talk to. For my use case, I use SDF Lemmy because we don’t defederate (roughly, cut off communication) from anyone, even people who unambiguously deserve to be cut off. Furthermore, the people here are pretty chill. And SDF.org has a history of public service literally much older than I am, so SDF Lemmy will probably be around for a while.

      Occasionally SDF Lemmy is out for like 24 hours and the SDF.org admins are a bit slow to respond, but that’s fine for me. But also, SDF is a pretty big instance now. In order to not concentrate too much power in the hands of SDF (or anyone else), you should probably choose a less crowded instance.

      • volvoxvsmarla @lemm.ee
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        I know that I need to migrate, nevertheless thank you for making sure I know. What I meant with

        How this matters

        Is that honestly I don’t see how I am connected to the instance to begin with. I’m trying to find a comparison that expresses what I feel but I fail to find a good one. Like a browser choice? No, there are differences in using firefox vs chrome. Like an email provider? Nah, also a huge difference. Like a remote control? I have come across weirdly designed remote controls though.

        But the instance - I have no connection to it whatsoever. It is just a random thing that provides me access to (all instances of) lemmy. I’m not sure I could care less about it.

        Maybe the closest I can come up with is the difference between a gmail.account ending in .com or in .de .

        But again, maybe I am missing something important here. I’m really tech illiterate and it is not the area I have an innate grasp at. (I used to drop that I have no idea what a router is, how tf the internet works (there are cables at the bottom of the ocean?!) or how code is even doing stuff. The problem is that I always end up with an inbox of people thinking they will be the one to make me understand.)

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    21 hours ago
    Life's a piece of shit 
    When you look at it 
    Life's a laugh and death's a joke, it's true 
    You'll see it's all a show 
    Keep 'em laughin' as you go 
    Just remember that the last laugh is on you 
    And
    
    Always look on the bright side of life
    Always look on the right side of life 
    
  • tartarin@reddthat.com
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    21 hours ago

    I have already moved to another instance and I was pretty new on Lemmy as a whole. I think I created my account about a month ago.

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    21 hours ago

    Intersteller for ios supports piefed kinda now, still buggy for notifications but piefeds a good move too

  • /home/pineapplelover@lemm.ee
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    Sticking around to the last day. Love you mods. Still haven’t picked an instance. Not sure if there’s another instance run like lemm.ee

    Thinking dbzero, lemmy.zip, or shitjustworks for now

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      Idk I’m on lemmy.world and it seems fine? I think it’s just the default for most people since it was one of the earliest if not the first instance, would have to look it up.

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        The .world TDL makes it sound universal and it didn’t get a reputation as THE place for Mao cultists or whatever like .ml did. So lemmy.world isn’t the center of the lemmyverse but it is in the middle.

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        The user interface with SLRPNK is good, if you’re still looking. I joined it just before kbin died and it’s done a pretty good job filling the hole reddit left, better than kbin anyway.

        I tried to get the hang of blahaj.zone while SLRPNK was down recently and just couldn’t with how follow people/profile centric it is, or how awkward it was finding posts I’m interested in. I liked the cat widget though, reminded me of that ancient Felix browser add on.

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    2 days ago

    Now don’t get me wrong, I am not hype about moving from a great instance, but I feel this has been a great demonstration of why the federation is a good idea. All in all, migrating has been a fairly smooth experience, and most communities are either on other places or are moving fairly structured. Previously, closure of services or enshitification has caused me to spend weeks to months hunting for new places to read. This has been a great experience in most ways, and I think I can live happily jumping from instance to instance like this for a few years until I give up and set up my own.

    • MeThisGuy@feddit.nl
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      22 hours ago

      lemm.ee be real. your instance is fucked.

      onto the next one.

      but that’s the beauty of the fediverse… you can’t stop us all.

      one for all, all for one

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        Partially, at least not what I use regularly. The account settings has a system for exporting settings, communities and block lists. You cant really retroactively move comments and posts to have been made by another user, but making a post on both the old and new users claiming eachother should propagate to other instances and be archived correctly.

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      Also, old content won’t be gone. It’ll still be around. Hell, people can still even reply to stuff. Inactive lemm.ee communities won’t have new comments propagate to instances past where the original commenter is from, but still!

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    I genuinely cannot express the depths of my sorrow.

    I understand the decision and hold no ill will towards the admin team, I just think lemm.ee was exactly everything I wanted from an instance and am truly sad to not only lose the account history being associated with me, but also the most neutral of the instances.

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      Lemme.ee got so toxic that the admins bailed. Nobody in the community supported the leads or stepped up to replace them. Whomever was fronting the money to keep the instance hosted got fed up and decided to shut it down.

      Now there’s a big ceremonial cry-in for an instance that ate itself with dysfunction, because… idfk.

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        That’s not what happened. It wasn’t any more or less toxic than any other place on the internet, the lead admin just got burnt out. He asked the community for volunteers to moderate the instance and apparently nobody showed up.

        So he’s shutting down the instance next month. It wasn’t dysfunctional or toxic, he just sacrificed a lot and AFAIK never even broke even with server costs.

        The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

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          Yeah, I gave volunteering a good, long think because I’m mostly sure I’ve got the right proficiencies for it, but my plate’s already overflowing as it is. I like lemm.ee, but when I sat down and considered my priorities IRL, I am legitimately sorry to say that it didn’t make the cut. I guess everyone else did that same math.

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          I’ve modded some small but active enough to need real coverage subs on reddit. It’s a real job. People are too weird to self-moderate.

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          the lead admin just got burnt out. He asked the community for volunteers to moderate the instance and apparently nobody showed up.

          :-/

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        Talk about over exaggeration lol. Lemm.ee was fine and well run, I enjoyed it more than being on .world. They just didn’t have enough people willing to be admins.

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    For .ee users still deciding on an instance to jump to, I chose .zip because it’s managed similarly:

    • Similar defederation policy
    • Runs the latest version of lemmy
    • Defederated from Threads

    Others moved to piefed.social.

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      So what’s the difference between that and .world? Maybe I’m not looking hard enough, but I don’t see any “about us” pages for these Lemmy servers

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        Scroll down to the bottom of both instances’ home pages using the default lemmy UI. You’ll see the version of lemmy they use. You’ll also see a link labeled as Legal, which contains most of the instance’s policies. The Instances link will show you what instances they are federated and defederated with. The modlog can also give you some insight on what’s happening on the instance. Combine that with all the other information on their sidebars and you’ll get a rough idea of how different they are managed.

        It also helps if you’ve been on lemmy for a while because you would’ve directly experienced or witnessed any issues or controversies those instances have been involved with.