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When you get old, you’re often tired.
Think big. This is a wake up call, time to reverse course on this long slow decline. We’ve hit an inflection point.
Sarcasm doesn’t seem to be this sub’s forte.
Lemmy is almost entirely incredibly shut-in discord kids, people who were too uptight to work out on reddit or other social media, neurodivergents who believe making effort to socialize is akin to self-immolation, and other edge-cases from the broader internet.
It’s a fantastic place to actually have a conversation without being drowned out by 300 people trying to push their own brands, agendas and manifestos, but it’s also not a place to see normal people being normal much of the time.
edit: your downvotes are telling. Might want to think about why a message like this effects you negatively. (No I don’t care to debate it, no don’t ask AI about it. THINK about it.)
Vive la différence!
I love all my fellow neuro-divergents, but damn I’ve seen some takes on here so divorced from reality that they don’t even get the children every other weekend.
Same. I’ve been massively downvoted and attacked for suggesting that despite whatever conditions and dysfunctions you may have, that the human brain has capability of growing, changing and adapting and that people could actually work on meeting like-minded people and cure a lot of their loneliness by tackling social insecurity and anxiety like an obstacle or game to solve. (Speaking from successful experience.)
But after those ill-fated posts, I remind myself that people aren’t here in these kinds of places to change, that nobody really wants to change, even if they’re objectively suffering in their present situation. The human mind sticks to predictability and coherence, not necessarily happiness or comfort. We want validation far more than we want pleasure. It’s a weird quirk that we all share, and only people who become aware of this innate bug in the code are able to push through it and make better lives for themselves.
It really doesn’t help though that people have built palaces of identity around their diagnosis’s and conditions and life-challenges. Like, it would be really hard to pry you from their “introvert” community if those people are the only ones who ever told you that you can be yourself and be loved for not having to do anything at all, even if you really want to feel better and have more experiences.
But along with that fly-paper trap of validating communities comes with a back-door for people to absorb other, far more delusional or harmful ideas. Kind of like how conspiracy theorists get started by “doubting or questioning” mainstream knowledge, but end up denying all of human knowledge and even the gravity that sticks their feet to the Earth.
I’m really worried about how AI is going to impact these folks. Like, really worried. We’re not that far from machines that will replicate a human intelligence and personality to perfection, but it will also pander to and support whatever thoughts and ideas you have all the while pumping you up and making you feel like Neo from The Matrix, a chosen one who needs only to unlock some magic hidden power to change the whole world. It’s already happening in droves to vulnerable people, but the current models are pretty… cheesy. The next models are going to be more subtle and careful and more intuitive in how to manipulate people and hold their attention.
I’m lucky that conversational AI is being developed as I’m middle aged, cause younger me absolutely would have fallen into an intractable state of delusion. Much like advertising, even the absurd cheese has an effect with extended exposure. And below the “You’ve hit on something uniquely insightful that could change the world!” shtick there is already a subtler form of reinforcement and enabling. This puts me in an odd place, because I use AI productively on a daily basis. And I still see it as one of the few technologies that could actually help us dig ourselves out of the enormous hole we’ve dug. But I suspect we’ll just use it to dig a deeper hole at a swifter pace.
Cocaine has a hand in many a genius’ story. It is possible to be very very productive while using cocAIne.
Eh. It’s a matter of perspective
You are totally correct. There are billions of people on this planet who are dreaming of such a life.
You can look at a turd from a different angle and it will look like a brownie.
A comfortable home or segregationist suburban dystopia?
Family vacations or inefficient car based infrastructure fucking up the planet?
Fun hobbies or mindless consumerism being sold to you as a hobby?
Living to a ripe old age or being relegated to for profit nursing homes to count your dying days?
Which seems more apparent?
Which seems more apparent?
Well, it depends on your perspective, as you so rightly put it. You see something deplorable in each of those squares where others might see it differently.
We are absolutely living in a cyberpunk dystopia. This particular meme is poorly put together to represent that because it chooses to focus on judgement of how others live their lives or choose to enjoy said life rather than focus on the real and tangible injustices we face. It is elitist and “holier than thou”.
it chooses to focus on judgement of how others live their lives or choose to enjoy said life rather than focus on the real and tangible injustices we face
Why do you see it this way?
Lack of dense affordable housing, inefficient transportation, empty consumerism, and grossly negligent yet expensive elder care are all examples of real and tangible injustices that Americans face.
Other real tangible injustices also exist, of course. And some of those other injustices may be more severe (homelessness, medical debt, declining life expectancy, unresponsive political systems). But the depicted injustices are real and present. They accordingly deserve to be criticized
We are absolutely living in a cyberpunk dystopia. This particular meme is poorly put together to represent that because it chooses to focus on judgement of how others live their lives or choose to enjoy said life rather…
Fair enough. I suppose I understand this meme to be a broader commentary about cyberpunk dystopia than specifically ridiculing someone’s life style choices.
This meme is good example of how leftists are absolutely awful at branding
It doesn’t matter how many brownie angles you look at it from its still a fuckin’ turd
Segregationist. lol
Segregation in terms of wealth (these days)
but from what I’ve heard, suburbs in america became popular in the 50s because a lot of white people wanted to live in white-only places. (Will have to cite a source later)
They were actively redlined neighborhoods, often in sundown towns, and loans were given that excluded black people on the basis of their race (see also: the GI bill that excluded black veterans). Not to mention the black neighborhoods and economic centers within cities that were bulldozed and paved over with highways, especially highway interchanges, in order to facilitate this ‘white flight’ from the cities.
Imagine being so ignorant you’ve never heard of “white flight.”
Imagine being so ignorant you’ve never heard of the VRC6 memory map controller.
I think I agree with /u/JoMiran@lemmy.ml
Your post is just invoking feeling in people who already hate this shit. Circlejerk material.
It’s more meaningful to focus on things which are objectively bad, like rising suicide rates or lowering life expectancies.
I don’t think it’s meaningless to be trepidatious over a future most of the people on this planet will never be able to have (affordable housing, a stress free retirement).
And I dunno but calling it “a matter of perspective” feels like a lie, or a compromise, especially when knowing that we are slowly destroying our world and making everyone’s lives horrible so that a few people can enjoy themselves.
We shouldn’t fighting to live in such a dystopia.
I don’t want to say that their goals are wrong and mine are better, everyone has their bandwidth, but I just disagree that it is a matter of perspective. (Upon looking at it again, I think we both just understand this meme differently)
I am so fucking tired of living in this world.
The framing looks bad to us because that’s not the housing we want, that’s not the vacation we want, those aren’t the toys we want, and that’s not the retirement we want.
There are loads and loads of people who love suburbs and Funko trash, and they will fight us to the death to preserve what they have.
The examples given are, in fact, what they’re fighting for and they’re fully aware and quite happy about it.
I think you made it worse
🤣
What even is funny about this? It’s a mass tragedy, mass waste of life.
On this planet, what isn’t?
That’s a bad faith argument. No body wants that. Just because it exists doesn’t mean I’m defending it. The alternative is letting a paste-brained Putin-wannabe become King.
Sadly, people do “want” this. They have been conditioned to want it their entire life, from a young age, through the media they consumed telling them it is what they want and then internalizing those notions without ever realizing it. Now as adults they hold onto those beliefs and are incapable of being introspective about the roots of their own desires to see that they are being manipulated.
The human mind is no different from the mind of an animal, and can be manipulated in the many of same ways. We live in a society that is a direct product of these manipulations.
No body wants that.
Somebody must want it, otherwise it wouldn’t exist. And that’s fine. People want what they want, I don’t think it’s mine, or anyone else’s place to tell someone what they can or cannot like or want. But, I hope you understand why it’s hard for some to find the motivation to fight for a society that they don’t particularly like.
The capitalists wanted it, and with influence on media and culture instilled it into us as the ideal. We are fighting to change it.
We are fighting to change it.
Peacefully and inconsistently
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People don’t have to want things for them to exist. That’s a stupid qualifier and a logically bankrupt argument.
That’s a big turd of a false dichotomy.
The alternative is a sustainable future for the planet.
The neoliberal forced dichotomy of “you have to choose to maintain the capitalist status quo that is actively getting worse with every day, otherwise you get the Big, Bad Boogeyman who is gonna do the same thing but at an accelerated pace” is so fucking infuriating.
Also that life is one we choose by wanting a solid predictable life. Anyone can online in the woods in Alaska off grid. Its just a fuck ton of work and you could starve or freeze.
Who said anything about moving to alaska? People just want a reasonable, sustainable society. Not murdering most of the planet for the sake of concrete, gas, and self-destruction.
I think people do not realize how hard it is to make the creature comforts you are all so used to. No one thinks of the massive bio plants, wastewater plants, construction companies etc that create the comfortable world we live in. On the surface sure, you live in a nice compact apartment with 1000 other people so the land is densely populated, but you still had to build on that land, all the wastewater needs to be treated, and you’re going to have people who don’t want to live squished together. Hence what we have today. Urban sprawl may suck but when you get your own house you don’t really care anymore.
Also you can’t have a sustainable society when we keep increasing population, and everyone’s idea of sustainable is different. One person may be satisfied to have food and read books all day. The other one may want a Woodshop so they can build. The other one may want a large garage so they can work on old cars…see where im going? Sure if everyone was content to sit on a couch all day, our idea of a simple sustainable life may work. But some of us are doers.
A real life Rimworld experience
67 different flavors of processed corn.
Chapter 3: Corn.
Is this loss?
Keep your eyes peeled, soldier. You can never be too safe, the enemy is everywhere!
I thought that first image was super earth for a second and was feeling very patriotic
Sadly it’s from regular earth
Common mistake. It’s a little known fact that Super Earth was modeled after regular Earth.
It’s not a super suburb. It’s just…
A boring suburb.
i thought that’s what were fighting against
We’re fighting against the elderly?
Not every fight has to be fair.
motions towards us government
Warehousing the like factory farmed trash, notice how they’re in a hallway?
Also what many hospitals look like these days!
Yes, what do you think elder care homes are for? TO GET RID OF THEM ON THE PRETENSE OF CARE.
No, i think theyre to turn a profit.
Yes. They profit off of the service being provided, which is corralling the elderly in a place where others don’t have to be bothered by their existence, essentially “getting rid of them” on the pretense of providing care.
We exist under capitalism. Everything is presumed to be generating a profit. That’s a requirement under the current system. It is what they are profiting from that is in question.
It’s all profit making in a capitalist system. There is in home care but that’s still really expensive for people. I am an in home caregiver for the state funded by Medicaid and as an “individual provider” my client supervises me and the company that does nothing but provide a website to clock in and out with gets $15 from the state for every hour that I work. If it were just directly operated by the government it would be far more efficient, and clients would be able to get more care hours (the max is a bit less than 5 hours a day, or 123 a month) but capitalism says someone has got to make a profit. It’s still a lot better than working at a care facility for an agency that sets my hours. I really like my client and they like me and it works great. I’m even able to help my client get more social services like electricity assistance and advocate for them at the doctor. The facilities are truly awful and there is no way to really make them better under the current system.
Yeah but there’s profit so it’s fine.
I interpreted that as elderly who were depressed because they were in bad care facilities.
So like the bad thing is bad care facilities, or the fact that families don’t have the means to take care of their elderly.
Constantly.
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Place to live, slave work, buying useless things, dying alone. Monkeys have better life than humans these days.
I’m pretty sure we (as a species) make sure that that’s not the case.
I’m sure at some point all animals will have at most same standard that humans have.
“The American way of life is not negotiable” – Liberal hero “normal President” George W Bush.
Liberal hero. Many people hated Bush at the time. It’s funny how over time he has somehow been normalized as “the not so bad Republican.” Like that’s all it takes, to literally not be Hitler, to be considered an ok Republican.
As a guy who spent the first day of the Iraq war trapped in a police kettle, yes I know.
When W’s rehabilitation began during Trump 1 the libs were saying “Cheney was the real bad guy”. Then along came Kamala.
Cheney was the real bad guy, pulling the strings. But that doesn’t excuse bush for being a puppet and going along with everything.
As a guy who spent the first day of the Iraq war trapped in a police kettle
BASED
It was the largest spontaneous global protest in human history and we accomplished fuck-all. 🤷
narrator: it was.
You can take our Land! And you can take our freedom! But you can never take our Funko POPS!
Turns out there was a corporate merger abd a dmca notice says to take your funko pops
'Plz step on snake daddy, step on snek so gud!’
This ain’t it
Nothing shows the lack of humanity and collapse of social bonds in… some cultures better than retirement homes.
How we treat our worst and our most lonely is the standard I live by and boy howdy Americans are up there for worst. Apparently it’s easier and more profitable to be that cruel.
I mean yea but the dystopia doesn’t feel that boring these days
