• zjti8eit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    6 hours ago

    There is no way Canada is down for paying the health care costs of Californians, let alone the cost of defense from an American military.

  • selkiesidhe@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    1 day ago

    You know tbh I’m surprising TACO McDumbass hasn’t thought about selling our country yet…

    Imagine the cash you’d get for this whole place, fuck!

  • Ocean@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    25
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 days ago

    Listen, you just want to annex lake Michigan and take Chicago as a part of the bundle, I won’t argue. Because at this point I’m begging

    • MisterFrog@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      4 hours ago

      Considering them petitioning to leave Oregon, I feel like eastern Oregon would be very upset about this

    • merc@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      21 hours ago

      I’m sure the sane people in those new Canadian provinces would want universal healthcare, but would they be willing to give up their guns? I think most of Canada is appalled at the gun violence in the US and would make giving up guns an unconditional requirement of joining Canada.

      • rekabis@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        12 hours ago

        Deaths by firearm, per 100,000 people, are about 1/7 the number in Canada as it is in America.

        America has over 200 school shootings a year. 2024 saw a near record with 330 school shootings.

        Canada? 6 in its entire history. To get to the grand total of 9, you would have to include post-secondary institutions.

        If you truly want to “think about the children”, firearm control comes wwwaaaaaaayyyyy before banning books and taking away lunches.

        • jballs@sh.itjust.works
          cake
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          23
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          2 days ago

          You say “they” as if states don’t have different districts. Boebert came from a right-leaning district, but was so toxic she couldn’t get re-elected there. So she had to move to an even more right district in order to win.

            • Empricorn@feddit.nl
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              1 day ago

              Yeah. Her saying “don’t you know who I am!?” and flipping off the workers after getting kicked out for refusing to stop vaping indoors and near pregnant women and performing public sexual acts at a musical where kids were in attendance… That’s pure Florida.

        • cenzorrll@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          2 days ago

          I guess we could go to Mexico and take Colorado with us. The border can cross us again.

        • halferect@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          1 day ago

          If I recall new Mexico is the only state that had a full Democrat victory this last election with not one republican winning a single seat so pretty blue

    • jsomae@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      2 days ago

      I think the red area should get alberta, maybe saskatchewan too. And I would personally like to see the Alaska pan handle transferred to B.C.

    • SippyCup@feddit.nl
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      edit-2
      3 days ago

      Hey take some cities as enclaves too. Blue cities in red states don’t deserve that kind of punishment.

    • SpicyColdFartChamber@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 days ago

      Realistically this wouldn’t be possible, at least in the way most people assume. It’s hard for people to just uproot their whole lives and move to another state (though it’s easier these days), a partition like this would mean leaving behind a lot of liberal minded people, who are too poor or too rooted in a place.

      • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        3 days ago

        On a family zoom call we were comparing house moves. My bro had the record at like 51 times he moved his house. One year he moved to Manhattan, then to Harlem, then to London.

        It’s not hard, but it can be complex.

        • 5in1k@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          2 days ago

          I have a garage filled with large power tools, my family and friends are all here and I own the land I live on. It’s hard and expensive to just uproot all that. For someone living an austere lifestyle it would be easier but if you’ve put down roots it’s much harder.

        • SpicyColdFartChamber@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          2 days ago

          This is not just a simple house move, this is a whole on nation move, where you may never get to go back. There’s will be massive paperwork, a lot of uncertainty, chaos and pain. From my anecdotal knowledge on what happened in countries like west/east germany, north/south korea, india/pak, I can say that this event will be very stressful for a lot of people.

          Especially if you have to move for your safety. You might have to sell your house for cheaper than what it’s worth, you might not be able to buy new land or find good renting opportunities. You might have to sell your business or close down. You might have to find new jobs, new schools, new everything. And some people just don’t want to leave their home, no matter how fucked things are, because there’s a chance they’ll never see it again.

          This isn’t to mention, the pain that will come with such a divorce, the shame, and the lost hopes.

          It’s definitely hard and complex. I think you are greatly underestimating how traumatic such a move would be for a lot of people (even if it maybe necessary).

          • BCsven@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            2 days ago

            Moves are a pain, the biggest part is you lose circles of support as in friends, colleagues, community. But moving itself, while sucking badly is not terribly difficult. I have moved from UK, to Ontario, now to BC and its probably 12 houses I have lived in so far. You start to simplify your belongings as you go, but starting fresh friendship connections is the tricky part.

            • swelter_spark@reddthat.com
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              8 hours ago

              Moving from one state to another in the US costs about $10-20k if you hire a service. If you pack and move everything yourself and rent a truck you can take that down to around $6-7k, but the physical labor involved is strenuous. For people who don’t have a lot of money or who are old or not physically strong, I think it’s reasonable to describe it as difficult.

            • SpicyColdFartChamber@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              2 days ago

              I was talking about the divorce as a whole. It would have some very serious ramifications. Moving wouldn’t be easy, because you’d be doing so under a whole different set of circumstances than moving abroad for studying or for a job. It’s not just you, it’s everyone who wants to live a “liberal democracy” who would want to move and it wouldn’t be easy at all, imo.

              Historically mass exodus aren’t fun.

  • Triasha@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    2 days ago

    Feel real bad for Illinois, Virginia, Colorado and New Mexico citizens.

    And all the Democrats in the red states of course.

  • Captain Poofter@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    37
    ·
    2 days ago

    ain’t no fucking way your carving that out and leaving Minnesota behind, we’ve been basically Canada for hundreds of years

  • Basic Glitch@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    Except this is also how the “democracy” that is modern day Russia was created. Everything that’s happened in the U.S. since ~2012 that has been driving us to the brink of collapse by furthering the divide between left and right has been eerily similar.

    Psychological Inoculation and Astroturfing: Preparing for exploitation of U.S. secession movements

    A lot of people don’t know this, bc it’s not exactly clear what they were doing there, but coincidentally the Heritage Foundation also seemed to play a role in the creation of the first free market in the earliest days of post-soviet Russia.

    • jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      2 days ago

      thank you for not giving in to their rhetoric and letting this point die.

      i get endless downvotes on all social media anytime i say a civil war is the absolute fucking worst outcome of any of the current trends.

      guess people are just out for blood rn. i wouldn’t make it sound so innocent, tho. why are people out for blood? lots of answers, none satisfying enough.

      • Triasha@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        2 days ago

        Take an up vote from me. Civil wars nearly always end in tragedy beyond the imaginations of those who start them.

      • Basic Glitch@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 days ago

        I believe the most obvious is they benefit (or at least believe they will benefit) from that outcome.

    • The Heritage Foundation is a society of monarchists. It’s supported by oligarchs who want to be king to push the world towards that agenda, and such oligarchs routinely infuse it with capital.

  • Darkard@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    86
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 days ago

    Imagine.

    Donald declares war on Canada.

    Straight away all those states secede from the union and declare independence (States rights!)

    Canada claims them all as allies.

    TACO bell end Trump backs down.

    States join Canada.