• jordanlund@lemmy.world
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    4 个月前

    If nobody believes he killed the CEO then everyone needs to immediately retract all the Luigi memes.

    It’s clear he shot the guy, the only question is how justified it is.

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      Innocent until some guy on Lemmy says otherwise?

      Oh wait, no, it still has to be proven.

      Unless you were present at the time, you’ve seen some videos. Perhaps it’s not likely, but videos can be faked, more easily now than ever before.

      Proof first.

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        Lemmy isn’t a court of law, neither is the Internet. It’s pretty much universally accepted he killed the guy, if it wasn’t, we wouldn’t have the hero worship.

        What the court is going to decide is if he’s justified or not.

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          Lemmy isn’t a court of law, neither is the Internet.

          Proceeds to cite general Internet opinion as proof of guilt.

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            Again, this isn’t about “guilt”. Guilt implies some level of wrongdoing, and the court is still out on that.

            The question they will determine is “was he justified”, not “did he do it.”

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          The court is also going to need to decide if the cops planted the evidence he conveniently carried with him several days later.

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            Any conspiracy theory is going to do some heavy lifting explaining how the highly custom pistol in the video is not the same highly custom pistol found on Luigi.

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        There are two groups of people:

        1. People who think Luigi’s a criminal who needs to be imprisoned or executed.

        2. People who think Lugi’s a hero who was fully justified in his actions.

        Both groups agree he killed the guy. There is no argument outside tin-foil-hattery that he didn’t.

        The only question remaining is if it’s justified or not.

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          Mangione has not admitted to the act nor has he been convicted. He has a right to the presumption of innocence. The state must prove his guilt. Trial by public opinion in the media is not a replacement for a jury of his peers. That is an elementary democratic principle, not a conspiracy theory.

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            Of course he’s not going to admit anything, he’s not a dummy. But it should be obvious to anyone with 1/2 a brain he’s the shooter, the only question is “was it justified?”

            In that regard, he seems to be winning the battle for public opinion and has been even before he was ID’d.

            I keep half expecting this moment at trial:

            https://youtu.be/mCjBspxuUmU