• neidu3@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      10·
      15 days ago

      Especially if the comment/post is written with the unpopular part first. People generally don’t bother reading much before downvoting.

      • essell@lemmy.worldEnglish
        81·
        15 days ago

        I agree.

        I also find that people don’t bother reading beyond the first sentence which often results in downvotes.

    • MagicShel@lemmy.zipEnglish
      2·
      15 days ago

      I use Mac at work. Not by choice, they forced the first one on me and I was uncomfortable leaving Windows. But it gave me the courage to go full Linux at home. I’m happy enough that I’m completely off windows for about two years. Mac seems pretty fine to me.

      But I’ve never had cause to discuss that in Linux spaces.

  • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.worldEnglish
    195·
    15 days ago

    There are certain topics which you are expected to rabidly detest without question. Anything less than sheer, frothing-at-the-mouth, hatred will get you down votes and replies telling you why nuance is fucking stupid and you should just blindly hate with the rest of the hivemind.

    A few examples:

    AI

    Bitcoin/crypto

    The word “retarded”

    Brave browser

    Any of Elon musk’s companies. Not just the man himself, but Tesla and SpaceX as a whole.

    Most religions; unless they are associated with minorities, then they’re precious flowers that should be respected.

    Reddit

    Google

    Microsoft

    Personal cars as a means of transportation

  • Secret Music@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    154·
    15 days ago

    Anything. People around here downvote memes they personally don’t like in meme cookies communities and songs they personally don’t like in song sharing communities. It seems like all of the types of people that never followed etiquette on Reddit either came here. And the problem is here is so much smaller, so every downvote is more noticeable and affects things more.

    Not having 100% praise for Lemmy and criticizing certain things is a site fire way as well. And if you kick the hornets nest enough in that regard, they’ll actually start actively downvoting correct information and upvoting misinformation, as long as it suits the circlejerk.

    If you talk about how someone went through your entire profile and downvoted everything, you guessed it, that results in even more people doing the same thing. And now your stupid innocent comments about your life or hopes and dreams in casual conversation are all sitting at minus points and this whole thing feels like a joke and waste of time, while the people who put you there go “who cares? It’s just imaginary internet points.”

    And some of these people that I encountered in this, treating people this way and intentionally ruining the experience and fun for them were regular and familiar faces around here. Those familiar faces that people talk about that are so nice to see around here.

    And the fact that there were so many familiar faces makes me wonder about other things too. In the middle of that, I had someone completely baselessly accuse me of being someone else with multiple accounts. Which of course got upvoted by probably the same people that upvoted misinformation on how blocking on Facebook works.

    And that left me wondering about the times I’ve got a DM warning me that a user I’ve interacted with is a bot or someone with multiple accounts for nefarious reasons. And I normally believe them. But are they going to be doing this to me now? Is this what the power users around here that act like nice people do to anyone that pisses them off?

    Edit: I bet this will get downvoted too. Not that I can see it from here.

      • Secret Music@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        5·
        15 days ago

        Voting systems are stupid; they never work because they’re so easily gamed.

        Yeah this is definitely true. Probably more so for smaller platforms too. Blåhaj doesn’t have downvotes enabled and you couldn’t even if you wanted to (which I basically never do anyway). But after checking out an instance with them enabled for a while, I’m not all that impressed with how they’re used around here. They probably get used like that on Reddit too but you barely notice it there.

        And I’m of the camp where yeah, they’re imaginary internet points but it’s also something built into the platform for a little fun and also to boost quality content. I like upvoting basically everyone that has a decent conversation with me, for example. To me it feels like it’s giving just a little extra acknowledgement, like an “I see you”. And it’s fun. Or should be. I’m a pretty gloomy person but not that cynical. This place is in a weird in between where people want it to be like a '90s forum site but also they want their ‘agree’ and ‘disagree’ buttons to mash.

        I dunno, I’m over the event itself but I still have the bad taste in my mouth and a different impression of things and certain people now.

        For what it’s worth, even though you don’t care lol, you’re one of the people that I always enjoy seeing around here. I actually tried checking out your Pixelfed, couldn’t figure out how to view it from my instance, wasn’t in the mood to look up FAQs and shit, and haven’t been back since lol.

          • Secret Music@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            4·
            15 days ago

            Yeah, they just turn into ‘agree’ or ‘disagree’ buttons. Personally I have fun with it though. Upvoting content around here feels like one of the ways to contribute to this place, so that people who spend their time posting here get the psychological boost to carry on and feel like they’re appreciated.

            As long as it’s part of how things work around here, like it or not, those votes and the direction they go in are going to make people feel like they belong or don’t. Especially when they’re new. And taking away the grand total doesn’t change that either, it just obfuscates some of it. So I like to try and be a positive user here in that regard, personally.

            Edit: Just because most other people are assholes when it comes to this, doesn’t mean that I have to.

    • Blaze (he/him)@piefed.socialEnglish
      5·
      15 days ago

      Hello,

      I’ve been testing Piefed for a bit, it made a lot of progress since last time I used it. Actual blocking is possible there.

      • Secret Music@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        3·
        15 days ago

        Nice, and I’ve been informed that there’s a working app for it currently too. I’m all for full blocking, personally. If I feel like I need to block someone, I shouldn’t need to justify it or petition admins to ban them, I should be able to just do it and be rid of them in all aspects. And vice versa too, if someone blocks me for whatever reason, I don’t want to be left commenting on their content and trying to interact like an idiot, I want to no longer see them. Why should my upvotes and contributions in the comments go to someone that has blocked me?

        I’ve got a busy next couple of days but as soon as I’ve got time to play around and get used to new things, I’m definitely gonna try Piefed again and the app, Thunder I think.

        • Blaze (he/him)@piefed.socialEnglish
          3·
          15 days ago

          I think it’s Thunder indeed, but it’s only available on a specific instance for now, and not Piefed.social.

          If you’re going to use an app most of the time I would still wait for a bit. Or try the website and see if it can work for you.

          • Secret Music@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            2·
            15 days ago

            Yeah I tried the website in Firefox Android a while ago and there was something messed up in the theming of it for me. But at this rate, I might end up exclusively on desktop anyway. Dropped my phone the other day and now the bottom half of the screen is messed up, with big inky spots that are getting bigger. It’s getting harder and harder to type and see what I’m typing and I have to hit reply to read a lot of comments so that they go to the top of the screen lol. Gonna have to save up just for the absolute cheapest tier of phone that I hate sigh.

              • Secret Music@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                3·
                15 days ago

                Oh nice, I never heard about that. I check into the Piefed community occasionally to check progress with apps and haven’t read through every feature and change but that’s good to hear. I’ll try it soon. Last I tried, it was adaptive too, so it scales perfectly to your screen and is as good as an app. The only issue I had was the weird theme issue at that time.

              • Secret Music@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                2·
                12 days ago

                Hey Blaze, just wanted to say, I’ve tried out Piefed a little more. Can confirm mobile theming is definitely fixed. Think I might hold out a little longer for an app or more of certain options. A couple of things I’ll miss right now from apps is pinning favourite communities or being able to tweak my UI just right.

                So I’ll probably stick with base Lemmy for a while longer. Thinking of moving to crazypeople.online though. Less de-federation but downvotes still disabled, which might just suit me better right now. If I do that, I’ll probably use the screen name that I’m using on this account right now as a username there. Although I’ll take your advice and link my accounts in my bio.

                • Blaze (he/him)@piefed.socialEnglish
                  2·
                  12 days ago

                  Thank you for your feedback. We were discussing today how apps are an important factor in preventing people from migrating to Piefed full time.

                  Enjoy crazypeople.online, it seems to be a cool instance!

    • rumimevleviEnglish
      2·
      14 days ago

      I hate memes bit i don’t downvote. I simply block any meme community i encounter

  • Opinionhaver@feddit.ukEnglish
    3120·
    15 days ago
    • Saying anything critical of Hamas or non-critical of Israel
    • Expressing non-negative views about AI (LLMs)
    • Pointing out that not all members of a group are the same
    • Calling out extremism, for example posts inciting violence against CEOs or rich people
    • Defending unpopular individuals from false or exaggerated claims
    • Trying to defend yourself against false accusations
    • Highlighting obvious double standards in how people or ideologies are treated
    • Criticizing performative outrage or moral grandstanding, even respectfully
    • Asking sincere questions that challenge the thread’s emotional momentum
    • Stating that you’re politically neutral or independent
    • Defending due process or basic legal principles in emotionally charged situations
    • And of course, writing this response
    • Otter@lemmy.caEnglish
      7·
      15 days ago

      With a lot of these topics, it depends on how the post or comment is worded. I’ve seen plenty of posts/comments where the user spoke about the topics and viewpoints in your list and didn’t get downvoted for it.

        • MagicShel@lemmy.zipEnglish
          2·
          15 days ago

          I have a very simple rule that I rarely break. If someone’s post is worth replying to, I don’t downvote. It’s only if a response would be pointless that I downvote.

          On rare occasions, I even upvote people who disagree with me if they said it well or made some good points or conceded some ground though not the “war” I think that’s worth upvoting.

            • MagicShel@lemmy.zipEnglish
              5·
              15 days ago

              My client keeps a reputation counter totaling the up and downvotes someone receives from me. It tends to be asshole behavior that draws a downvote from me, so if someone manages to rack up a significantly negative total (I’ve never seen anyone hit even -10) that’s a good sign to just block them.

              Other than that, nothing and it’s rare I bother with them.

    • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.eeBanned from communityEnglish
      21·
      15 days ago

      Half of those will get you banned too. And sometimes the logs will be too embarrassed to admit it.

    • LadyButterflyshe/her@lazysoci.alOPEnglish
      57·
      15 days ago

      The hatred for CEOs scares me. Luigi being worshipped for potentially murdering someone truly scares me. “But I also hate this group so I’m fine with it” is really dangerous…it’s not ok for someone anti abortion to kill an abortion provider, and it’s not ok to kill CEOs either.

      Thank you in advance for my downvotes they are a compliment ❤️

      • Lena@gregtech.euEnglish
        82·
        15 days ago

        The CEO is a murderer. He is an accomplice in preventing people from getting the healthcare they need by jacking up prices and denying claims.

        The shooter (which is not necessarily Luigi) directly helped the working class by making it clear being such a shit person as Brian Thompson is dangerous. And this is sadly one of the rare effective methods of taking down this corrupt system.

        • jimmy90@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          14 days ago

          well said you are very far down the radicalization funnel

          when will you take up arms for the cause?

          • Lena@gregtech.euEnglish
            61·
            15 days ago

            How is abortion relevant here? I’m in full support of women having the right to make decisions about their body.

            • LadyButterflyshe/her@lazysoci.alOPEnglish
              54·
              15 days ago

              Someone that sees an abortion doctor as a murderer could feel justified shooting them. You said the CEO is a murderer, and the shooter directly helped the working class and that’s one of the rare effective methods of taking down this corrupt system. It’s justifications.

              Do you see the issue with these justifications?

              • Schmoo@slrpnk.netEnglish
                3·
                14 days ago

                These are extreme times, people are going to hold extreme views. Most people are going to have a problem with those who are anti-extremist to the point that they imply moral equivalence between the extreme left and the extreme right. Yes, violence is generally bad. No, not all violence is equally unjustified.

      • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.eeBanned from communityEnglish
        11·
        15 days ago

        As someone who would sacrifice her authority to maintain a bit of level-headedness, I was one of your “upvoters”. But as someone who blocked/ghosts me, you probably won’t see it. So take that as you will.

  • the_q@lemm.eeEnglish
    121·
    15 days ago

    Reading comprehension isn’t great which can often cause misunderstandings that lead to downvotes.

      • Opinionhaver@feddit.ukEnglish
        34·
        15 days ago

        I think the main reason is that very few people are actually interested in hearing views that seem to challenge their preconceived notions - even if what’s being said doesn’t actually contradict them. People are constantly on the hunt for “the other,” and the bar for labeling someone as the enemy based on a few wrong-sounding noises is extremely low here. The capacity to give anyone the benefit of the doubt is almost nonexistent.

        It’s a team sport, and when they suspect someone’s not on their team, the instinct is to tear them apart. Most people aren’t interested in changing minds - let alone being open to having their own mind changed. They just want to sling dirt and rack up upvotes from the audience.

    • Letstakealook@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      15 days ago

      Adding to that, people will outright make up things you didn’t say or imply and attack that strawman. Then others come along and pile on.

  • missingno@fedia.io
    144·
    15 days ago

    Nintendo. They definitely do some frustrating things sometimes, but I don’t think they’re anywhere near the worst in the industry right now. But the circlejerk at any mere mention on this platform has become beyond insufferable.

    I’ve had someone tell me I’m killing gaming because I said I’m excited that Kirby Air Ride is finally getting a sequel after 22 years. Fuck off and let me enjoy things!

    • piccolo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      2·
      13 days ago

      The problem with nintendo is they hate their community. They take down community projects like emulators. Issue DCMAs consistently on youtubers/streamers for playing nintendo games, especially ones playing modded games. And they are massive patent trolls, as in the case of palworld.

      Sad because their game developers really do make very creative games. But their executives and lawyers can go to hell.

  • markovs_gun@lemmy.worldEnglish
    122·
    14 days ago

    Saying anything positive about AI. AI is Satan in the eyes of most people on Lemmy and if you disagree you’re a fascist pig. I also got downvoted once for pointing out that being a millionaire isn’t that hard to achieve these days if you’re a well paid professional in response to a comment saying that millionaires are evil people who should be sent to prison. Like pointing out that the math works out that most engineers will be millionaires by retirement age is apparently evil lmao.

    • FooBarrington@lemmy.worldEnglish
      51·
      14 days ago

      Doesn’t even have to be anything positive. I see wrong explanations of how AI works all the time, and if you correct them you’re very likely to get downvoted.

      • markovs_gun@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        14 days ago

        Yeah I’ve been downvoted and then accused of being an “AI Bro” because I actually like machine learning and know how it works. It’s kind of insane how much people just blindly hate it here.

    • superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      66·
      14 days ago

      Lemmy pretty much hates me. I’m 35, have 3 kids, own my my house, my net worth just passed 1.1 Million and and I use AI to help me code.

  • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠@slrpnk.netEnglish
    101·
    15 days ago

    complaining about downotes (and it should)

    posting links to a video without providing a text summary (and it should)

    complaining about censorship on “lemmy” when the user has only tried one instance (and it should)

    reposting content (this one’s more iffy)

  • tetris11@lemmy.mlEnglish
    123·
    15 days ago

    Defending transphobes, defending israel, and using the word “gwinv” in a sentence