• athairmor@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Congrats, Austria!

    So, Israel went from 15 from the jurors but 2nd overall? 🤔

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      5 days ago

      They’ve been coordinating votes and advertising heavily.

      Here’s a Finnish news source: https://yle.fi/a/74-20162154

      But there’s others in English on Reddit I think.

      Basically coordinated right wing voting.

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        5 days ago

        I’m sure that’s some cheating going on as well with throwaway Sims or outright buying votes.

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          I mean, they’re notorious for hacking, and even did a supply chain attack with beepers.

          I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they did voip voting via VPN or such. I’d imagine a nation state hacking a song contest would be trivial by comparison.

          I had this idea, but don’t know how to implement it, that if a mass poll was done globally on voting, it could be used to see if any cheating occur. With the high amount of points Israel got, it wouldn’t take much deviation to have evidence that the audience vote was manipulated.

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            5 days ago

            Yeah, not 100% sure how it’s implemented, but if you compromise a mobile app with the right permissions you could probably send the SMS from what’s essentially a botnet.

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              Voting is exlusively via SMS, the voting app also just sends an SMS and so does the website. The only country not doing televoting is San Marino, too small and relies on Italy, if you send an SMS from there it’ll be probably counted as Italy. SMS is a crappy system and you can put whatever you want as sender (sometimes for codes you get an SMS not even from a number, but from a name because there’s no restriction on that). You can pretend to be someone else relatively easy and the receiver has no way of checking if it’s even a real number.

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      5 days ago

      Happened last year too, similar number of votes, but they got fifth place because the first four got much more points than this year.

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      5 days ago

      Yeah they got lots of votes for reasons beyond my personal understanding. Even without the politics involved I found many performances better than theirs.

      Edit: for the protocol, I didn’t like Austria either all that much. But I did like Armenia and the late machiato guy.

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        5 days ago

        I didn’t like Austria’s, either. But, it sure does sound like Eurovision song. I swear aliens are running the thing.