- cross-posted to:
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- cross-posted to:
- palestine@lemmy.ml
- endlesswar@lemmy.ca
In February, US President Donald Trump declared that “The US will take over the Gaza Strip” and “level out” the remaining buildings and transfer the Palestinian population to “other countries.” At the time, both US and international media dismissed Trump’s plan as an “outlandish” scheme with no prospect of realization.
The Israeli government approached Trump’s plan with deadly seriousness. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu praised Trump’s “bold vision” for an ethnically cleansed Gaza. “We’re working on it,” Trump said during a meeting in Washington last month.
On Monday, the Netanyahu government effectively announced the beginning of the final stage of ethnic cleansing in Gaza. The plan includes a full military occupation of the entire Gaza Strip and the mass internment of the population in concentration camps under armed guard, as a prelude to forced marches through the desert or deportation by sea.
These concentration camps will be staffed by private US security contractors, with the Israel Defense Forces overseeing the distribution of starvation rations. According to a report this week by Reuters, the United States and Israel are actively discussing the formation of a “transitional government” headed by a US official to administer Gaza.
Echoing the “final solution,” the Nazi term for the genocide of Europe’s Jews, Netanyahu declared, “It’s time to launch the concluding moves.” The next day, Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich explained the meaning of the Israeli government’s plan:
Within a year, … Gaza will be entirely destroyed, civilians will be sent to … the south to a humanitarian zone … and from there they will start to leave in great numbers to third countries.
The mechanism for the forcible displacement of the Palestinian people will be mass starvation. As National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir made clear, “No electricity, and no other aid should be allowed—neither by the [Israeli military] nor by civil society.”
On March 2, Israel imposed a total blockade on all food, water and electricity entering the Gaza Strip. As a result, the majority of Gaza’s community kitchens have been forced to shut down due to a lack of supplies, and cases of acute malnutrition have surged by more than 80 percent. Harrowing images have circulated of emaciated, starving children—victims of a famine that is entirely man-made.
Zionist talking points to distract us from asking why a foreign apartheid state has so much influence on our politics or why our “good” party chose genocide over their own constituents.
I highly doubt the genocide as we are seeing it today would be happening if Harris had won. This plan at the very least wouldn’t have been proposed by the American president and received a rubber stamp of approval by the US government. We would have likely ceased aid to Israel by now and mobilized the UN to inflict other penalties.
Nothing points to that. They gave more money and held the exact same stance as Trump currently holds. Both parties receive substantial amounts from Israel, most of Trumps bribes are probably off the books though.
Both parties arent the same, but on the genocide issue they absolutely are. They are calling it Trumps plan to muddy the waters, nothing more.
I think it’s kind of silly to assume the party that literally lost the election because genocide was more important to them then getting votes, would be the one doing a 180 right after getting elected.
This lie is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
Yes Democrats support Israel but there is no instance where they called for literal starving and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by pushing them out of their country.
Their goal was and has always been a two-state solution. Trump’s current stance is a one-state solution where the other state becomes a golf course.
Blinken tried to get support for ethnically cleansing Gaza in November 2023.
Whenever Biden set an ultimatum for Israel to let in aid, he never followed through or only haphazardly, never actually requiring Israel to provide enough aid to not starve people.
Harris reiterated that she will follow the policy of Biden.
The Democrats in power are behind ethnically cleansing and starving the Palestinians.
I guess we have different definitions of “stance”. They basically add their two state solution to fluff up their speechs, end it with “but Israel has a right to defend itself” and then declare another weapons package.
A small part of what they say directly contradicts the rest and their actions. It’s just there to keep us from bitching in my opinion.
I think Israel’s plan, currently being masqueraded as Trumps, would have happened regardless of the administration in charge, but we will never know because the good guys decided killing children was more important then keeping the white house.
When they can’t say anything supportive of Palestine without tacking that at the end, it really undermines any perception that they might actually try to do something. What’s the saying? (paraphrased) Whenever you add “but” to a sentence, you invalidate the point of whatever came before it.
yep, our Democratic party once-brothers tend not to like the idea that this genocide unfolded under Bidens active sponsorship and our entire government system is the lapdog of a foreign government.
In this one thing the democratic party is as bad as Trump. Just plain old evil and corruption, for money.
lol wut
Attacks on LGBTQ+ rights: https://www.advocate.com/politics/project-2025-lgbtq-so-far
Attacks on lawful Immigrants via mass deportations to a foreign nation: https://action.aclu.org/send-message/wrongful-deportations
Attacks on law firms that challenged his unlawful orders: https://www.npr.org/2025/04/13/g-s1-59497/trump-law-firms-pro-bono
Trump’s threats to annex Canada and Greenland.
Do I need to go on?
When it comes to blatantly deceptive quoting, removing “in this one thing” and then talking about other things is so on the nose that’s there’s no doubt left to give you the benefit of.
Be better.
That post reads as “Fascism is fine as long as its untermeschen are not people I care about” which is, funnily enough, the same way of thinking that MAGAs display ,just with different “favored groups”.
The tribalist (rather than principled) Democrats aren’t all that much different in mindset from Republicans: “It’s fine so long it’s only those I dislike who suffer”
At least read the things you are getting mad about.
But you (the people who pointed at the Gaza genocide as an important issue in the US election) didn’t ask that before the election, you strongly suggested that it only had an influence on one party despite all evidence pointing towards either both parties being influenced equally or the party who won (among other reasons) because of you being worse.
That is not true. People kept petitioning the Democratic party to stop the genocide. They kept raising the issue at Democratic events. Biden and then Harris shut them out. At the DNC congress in September Harris forbade a group of people from speaking about Palestine that tried to convince people to vote for Democrats despite supporting the genocide in Gaza as the group tried to take the “work from within” angle to change the parties position. The DNC chose that it is better to lose to Trump than risk anyone questioning the genocide to have a platform. The DNC did everything they can to alienate the voters and now they are running more racist gaslighting blaming the loss on “dumb minorities”.
You are probably incredibly young but Israel has had a firm control of American politics for literally its entire existence. Both parties, all presidents, pretty much all senators and members of congress on every level of your government. Lying to your faces that they could change that at a whim because Israel is committing another atrocity this decade on top of the ones they did in the decades before would have been a reason not to vote for them because that would have clearly made them untrustworthy.
Not to mention that every single dictator the US installed in the last century or so was pro genocide too.
All systems based on bribery and intimidation are incredible fragile once questioned in the open. If the DNC would decide to take a stance it would break the back of AIPAC and other lobby groups overnight. And there is no question this moment will come. AIPAC had to spend absurd amounts of money to campaign against local Democrats that challenged the support for genocide in the last year.
There is no political excuse for the DNC. They do this from ideological conviction and these convictions are against the American people and humanity at large just like the convictions of most Republicans are.
Two things can be true at once.
Russia used the dems support of genocide to convince voters to commit to something that wasnt in their favor.
Israel uses the voters as scapegoats so their genocide and hold on our politics doesnt stop.
Personally, I was very vocal about holding the line and voting for Kamala anyways before the election. Im also smart enough to understand that ultimately, the dems lost because they put the wishes of Israel before their base and because the platform they pushed was disgusting and stupid. They completely fucked us over and I want change, not useless voter blame.
Both true, but DNC and RNC leadership are the core of our problem there. And they will keep selling us all out, up to and including destroying whats left of our republic. We’re simply lucky that American soldiers arent on the front lines of Ukraine or Palestine doing what our paying customers tell us to do. Whenever a vote pertaining to Israel comes up in congress it gets 99% of the congressional vote. And we hang onto the very last shreds of free speech, which allows me to say this. We are not free-- we are owned.