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On May 5th, 1818, Karl Marx, hero of the international proletatiat, was born. His revolution of Socialist theory reverberates throughout the world carries on to this day, in increasing magnitude. Every passing day, he is vindicated. His analysis of Capitalism, development of the theory of Scientific Socialism, and advancements on dialectics to become Dialectical Materialism, have all played a key role in the past century, and have remained ever-more relevant throughout.
He didn’t always rock his famous beard, when he was younger he was clean shaven!
Some significant works:
Economic & Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844
The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte
Critique of the Gotha Programme
Manifesto of the Communist Party (along with Engels)
And, of course, Capital Vol I-III
Interested in Marxism-Leninism, but don’t know where to start? Check out my “Read Theory, Darn it!” introductory reading list!
That’s not my argument, actually. My argument is that tribal production based on hunting and gathering is entirely different from large scale industrialized economies, and to try to say they are more similar than different is missing the forest for the trees.
But all your arguments are based on technology and scale differences. You haven’t named any differences based on principles of economic organisation. Drag says technology and scale aren’t meaningful differences in this context.
Industrial production requiring complex networks of management, labor specialization, robust power grids, machinery, and more are entirely different from small communes. The economic organization is entirely different because of the different mode of production and level of technology.
Indigenous societies had complex networks of management and labour specialisation. Robust power grids and machinery don’t change whether something is communism or not.
You’re saying they’re different because they’re different. This argument is going around in circles just like your logic.
Having a robust and extensive power grid isn’t the only requirement for Communism, but as Communism is based on large production and social planning, it is still a requirement.
You are saying a fish and a tree are the same thing because both are alive.
It’s not. It’s based on worker ownership of the means of production.
Public ownership is certainly another key aspect, yes. The form that public ownership exists in necessitates large scale industry in order to achieve production of the global economy along a common plan, as it emerges from the foundations laid by Socialism, as Socialism emerges from Capitalism, Capitalism from Feudalism, and more, all the way back to tribal production.
No, you don’t need capitalism first in order to have communism. Turtle Island did communism without having capitalism first. Aren’t you paying attention? Don’t use assertions drag has already disputed as the basis for your arguments. You won’t convince drag that way, you’ll just wear drag out from repeating the same things over and over.
Try attempting to understand the entirety of drag’s argument, instead of bouncing between pieces of it and addressing them one at a time with the same old rhetoric.
You can’t address a unique and coherent argument by reading the counter to each part off your script.
I’ve already explained how tribal hunter/gatherer societies aren’t the Marxist conception of Communism as a post-Socialist and highly industrialized society. Turtle Island did tribal hunter/gathering, not post-Socialist highly industrialized Communism. Your argument is neither unique or coherent and tries to say both the society of Turtle Island and Star Trek are the same thing.