And for anyone asking “Why are we boycotting/blocking lemmy.ml?” Here’s a quick recap:
Lemmy.ml is an instance run by admins who are hardcore tankies and will enforce their ideology on their instance through various means from allowing (and pushing it themselves) propaganda (Such as Russia being justified in some way to invade Ukraine) and known propaganda outlets (Like RT) to removing content on their instance critical of their favored authoritarian regimes such as Russia or China and even banning users for such speech or speech critical of them if it’s off their instance (Just like the Reddit mods of ol!).
If it was just some random instance it would have been defederated from long ago like the rest of the “Tankie Triad” (Hexbear and Lemmygrad), but they’ve positioned lemmy.ml as the “flagship” instance and abused that position and influence to become large enough to keep other instances from defederating from them.
Which I believe is harmful to the Lemmy-verse’s overall growth and outside reputation. I have seen it come up before on Reddit threads (and other testimonials from people who came back and tried it again) that “They tried Lemmy but it was a bunch of tankies and went back to Reddit”
I don’t know about you, but I’d prefer Lemmy to not end up with the reputation for being "Tankie Central " or even worse “Voat 2.0”.
So if you haven’t joined the boycott yet, join today and help us foster a better healthier Lemmy-verse!
You can take a look around here on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works for documentation of it or checkout this list of curated documentation
On bans and censorships:
https://lemmy.world/post/28480760
https://lemmy.world/post/28481615
https://lemmy.world/post/28482147
https://lemmy.world/post/28480936
https://lemmy.world/post/28482273
https://lemmy.world/post/28481272
https://lemmy.world/post/28481064
https://lemmy.world/post/27674360
https://lemmy.world/post/27674117
https://lemmy.world/post/27673934
https://lemmy.world/post/27673724
https://lemmy.world/post/27577337
https://lemmy.world/post/27378634
https://lemmy.world/post/27346630
https://lemmy.world/post/27341283
https://lemmy.world/post/27288224
https://lemmy.world/post/27156418
https://lemmy.world/post/27054157
https://lemmy.world/post/27008261
Allowing altered headlines and permitting known propaganda outlets:
https://lemmy.world/post/28275465
https://lemmy.world/post/27428838
https://lemmy.world/post/27416097
https://lemmy.world/post/27314050
https://lemmy.world/post/27288953
Spreading Russia talking points like the Ukraine invasion just being a “negotiating tactic” !https://lemmy.world/post/27012640
General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet: https://lemmy.world/post/27426510
Open declaration of support for Russia (direct from dessalines (head admin)) https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
“concentration camps were just reeducation camps and weren’t that bad” https://lemmy.world/post/26985447
I’m lucky to not have been too exposed to most of their tankie apologetics for authoritarians, but I did notice a pretty staggering number of them were under the impression that Trump and Harris were literally identical.
And no, I don’t mean in the “the democrats are center right and often vote similarly to republicans on many issues” ‘identical’ view, I mean “They both do an equally bad amount of things, just in different areas, and neither is worse than the other” 💀
i found out earlier how to block instances like hexbear and ml.
I appreciate this. Id been gone from Lemmy for a bit but just unsubbed from all the .ml groups I had.
Yeah, blocked hexbear too.
Those people are absolutely fucking unhinged and do not engage in any sort of good faith argument.
After one round, I got name called, after round two asking for clarification, I just left.
Time is precious, the squirrels in my yard are more coherent than these chucklefucks.
Hell, even two crows would be better
they are more or less the same side of coins as conservatives, they even whine and post the same way.
I always go in and argue with those Tankie fucks when I have time, but I haven’t even seen them in the feeds lately.
Active Operators will block know counter propaganda operatives since they know it is a futile exercise.
Lmao, nah
The intention of the exercise is not to appeal to propogandists. It is to inform readers who stumble upon propoganda.
If what you claimed were true then the offending instances would not ban us for speaking the truth. They need to scrub clean our presence because we’re effective.
Lemmy .ml is partly why I switched to an instance which defederates them. The admin and mod behavior over there is gross. If it weren’t run by the Lemmy devs it would be widely blocked.
You know, the differing opinion isn’t so bad. It’s that they’re such pricks.
if the opinion is annoying and doesnt provide constructive conversations, opinions almost one-sided anyways and holds bias, i always block them if they become annoying.
well put. and every Marxist-Leninist I’ve met irl has been cool, these pricks are either misrepresenting the entire movement or doing it in the worst, most alienating, factually challenged kind of way.
I just block every site and user with that ending that I see. I’ve been banned on almost any of their sites anyway.
Propaganda on the internet? Oh great heavens!
Lemmy.ml seems to just downvote different opinions in masse without responding with respect.
After a few attempts to engage respectfully and just getting negative interactions I just blocked them entirely.
I’m new here and did not realize that, at first, I was only seeing .ml. I was so uncomfortable with the Russian/Chinese propaganda I created an account and ended up switching to this community mainly by accident. Glad to see my discomfort was justified.
since alot of us have migrated from reddit we see the same type of content, so it was easy to recognize it here, and i usually block them.
If they can’t outright censor it (such as if it’s off-instance) then mass downvoting is all they have left to try and control the narrative.
I was against blocking them because i dont want to create an echochamber(and i still support this on an instance level) but after they banned me and just keep downvote bombing anyone whos not a fucking poo tin or whinnie boot licker i had to block them.
they were never posting/arguing in good faith, ml and hexbear are insular echo chambers. the amount of posts i accidentally entered in ml and hexbear were all badfaith arguments. i pointed out sg1 in some propaganda discussion, and they called it to “liberal propaganda”
This just made me realise my feed is just that bit cleaner and there’s so much less news, it’s actually quite calming.
yes same, its just them whining, much like con posts do the same.
I tried to tolerate .ml because they’ve got some good linux and foss focused communities. Ultimately I decided it wasn’t worth it.
With genocide apologist defederated, another comnunity will surely take its place. A community that’s purpose is not to poison your mind.
Thanks for the heads up, just added to my block list.
“Known propaganda outlets (like RT)”
Sorry but… What’s RT mean in this context? Rooster Teeth? I’ve got no clue.
Just absolutely love your guess though
Lol my B. Couldn’t think of anything RT as an abbreviation but that
You don’t need to defend yourself. Would that the world were so kind
Oh, uhm. Sorry? I think? I’m not sure what I’m supposed to say this time haha. Thanks? Maybe…? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’m not sure what I meant!
RT stands for Russia Today.
Thank you for answering
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It’s those damn Reds, again.
Edit: sad the guy made a comment about rooster teeth and people don’t know what Red vs Blue is so they down vote.
I do know RvB, sorry! Just hadn’t looked at my phone till now!
I can’t tell if “reds” means communists or if this post was written by Church.
Obvious red post trying to false flag as blue.
Oh that crazy Sarge again!
