Vice President JD Vance traveled to Capitol Hill late Wednesday to cast a tie-breaking vote in the Senate that killed a bipartisan effort to rebuke President Donald Trump’s trade policy.
Earlier in the evening, the Senate rejected the resolution that would have effectively blocked Trump’s global tariffs by revoking the emergency order the president is using to enact them. Two senators who were set to vote for the resolution, Republican Mitch McConnell and Democrat Sheldon Whitehouse, were absent, allowing the resolution to fail 49-49.
I’m sorry. But don’t roll these back. The country voted for this. I’m willing to take the pain of the situation. So the stupid Trumpers will suffer. I have access to family farms that have the country’s fruit basket in my state. I’ll be able to survive because I can get to food easily. Sucks that others won’t be so lucky. But there is no reason to stop the tariffs. Let the hurt educate people.
Edit: I don’t give a fuck if this upsets people. Let the fucker burn. Burn baby burn! Fire it up! Fire it up! Fire it up!
Wow. You suck.
You can’t tell that this is the same logic they used to justify tariffs? “We (the wealthy and priviliged) can handle short term pain, it’s worth it”
It’s just… not good reasoning. At all. It’s intentionally destructive for ultimately no purpose.
You want to stop Trump because he is hurting people… and you want to do that, by letting him hurt people.
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Right. Both I and my fiancee voted against Trump. These tariffs are already making our financial situation untenable, and we were one missed paycheck from flat broke before Trump. Do we deserve to suffer too? Do our community, who also opposed Trump? Do we need to be “educated” about the economic hurt we knew was coming, or the tariffs we knew were a stupid fucking idea? You sound hateful in the same way as the MAGA supporters are. Let those I’m better than burn because I can take it.
Were you beaten as a child? Exploited for labor, derided for showing emotions? What lessons do you think that kind of suffering teaches? Do you think suffering builds character?
You say you are “willing to take the pain.” Then immediately admit you won’t feel as much pain as your ‘lessers’ but it’s okay because it’ll teach them. Those ‘unlucky others’ are people who will die. Do you hate your neighbors so much you will let them die after they’ve been lied to and gaslit by the owning class for decades?
Hurt people have two options; keep hurting those around them, or do their best to advocate, educate, and protect their community from further harm.
Which do you think works better in the long run?
I looked through their comments because I was curious if they’re actually a piece of shit, or if they’re just having a bad take or a bad day. No, that’s actually what they believe. They have some fascinating opinions on how zoomers and gen alpha are effectively inferior to millennials.
Ask a Gen Z or Boomer to boot up in safe mode for their computers. Shits wild how uninformed these generations on average are. It’s sad that I sit with nephews and try and inform them. But they have no interest in understanding how their Roblox machine operates. Just like how I deal with my elders who scream at their iPad because they split the screen between two tabs on the browser app. It’s sad. They really are just that dumb. How many of them can even rotate a pdf?
You see how you sound? You have knowledge that you needed and wanted. Just like boomers needed and wanted to understand how cars worked. Kids don’t need to debug or reformat or rotate PDFs, and so they don’t know how. It’s a skill, it’s not intelligence.
So, with all that said…
OK Boomer.
“I know a computer word so I’m smarter than an entire generation of people”.
Ask a millennial to hook up a horse to a carriage, or to iron a shirt. Shits wild on how uniformed these generations on average are.
Don’t mistake your competency with the technology of your generation with superiority.
Sir, this is a Lemmy. Our computers don’t have that, they have
GRUBidk,systemd-bootor some shit.EDIT: Of course it’s a real thing.
Did you not realize that the younger you are, the worse you are going to be screwed by Traitorapist Trump on: nuclear proliferation from Trump’s new world disorder, global warming, spread of Fascism, massive debt on tax cuts for billionaires, gutting of government infrastructure and services, new victimless crimes, etc? The Boomers aren’t going to be the ones who pay the worst price for Treason Trump’s massive enshitification program.
lol. You mean the two generations who have been radicalized by alpha bros pushing supplements on their podcasts? I at least have voted against Trump three times. I know who I support and will help. I just have given up fighting the tariffs. I’ve saved up enough money to weather the storm. For now. But I’m lucky enough to live near super farms that grow hundreds of different local crops year round. I grew up in the poorest region in the country. I’ve seen hardships up close. Those people will still get through this. But those MAGA finance bros looking for quick rich schemes. They will suffer from their own hubris. And I’m all for it. Just hope the rest of you make it out ok. You don’t deserve this. But it’s medicine to kill the cancer.
The country didn’t vote to give Traitorapist Trump the power to illegally bypass the authority of congress. And nobody was expecting that Trump was going to impose way worse tariffs than the Smoot Hawley Tariffs of 1930 which created 23.6% unemployment 2 years later and was passed by congress, not illegally imposed by a president.
Damn, I’m an asshole but you take the fucking cake.
There are a decent number of left leaning people who I have heard express similar opinions, with the rationale that if Americans feel the collective economic pain they will be more likely to oust the fascists before fascism can completely take over the US.
Not saying I agree, but I have been finding this argument more often lately.
I agree, and I probably won’t be fine. A failed dictatorship is better than a successful one.
At least you’ll be fine.
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Wow. Let’s start with your flawed philosophy. A lot of people who voted for Harris will get fucked by these tariffs too. If anything, Harris voters will likely get fucked even harder than the Trump voters. The trump voters are more likely to be rural and have the space and means to grow a garden with which to feed themselves. Urban voters - the ones most likely to vote for Harris - are unlikely to have the space or time for such a luxury. So again, while Trump voters will feel the burn too, they’re far less likely to be hurt as badly as the Harris voters will. Yet, here you are, wanting to hurt people because Harris voters need to learn to not vote for Trump or something. What an unintelligent take.
As for your personality…
What a completely unempathetic piece of shit you appear to be. I hope you’re disowned so you lose access to your fruit basket, you privileged asshole. Furthermore, I feel bad for anyone who’s required to be around you; your very presence should be considered a form of domestic abuse. No one deserves to be cursed with your existence and I sincerely feel sorry for any friends or family members who have been forced to tolerate you out of a sense of kinship. They do not deserve to be forced to tolerate someone who displays such a sociopathic lack of empathy and willingness to sacrifice others for your own benefit.
I’m actually pissed off that people like you exist.
Hey. Sometimes you just have to let the kid burn his hand on the stove and they understand their mistake. I understand the hurt that will happen. But many people on the left decided it wasn’t worth voting to stop it. I voted against Trump in 3 elections. Have supported progressives at every turn. But for this shit show. I’m hunkering down and weathering the storm. I built up a nest egg just for this bs. I helped people plan for it. There’s just no stopping this psycho. Without starting a revolution. and I doubt anyone is ready for that fight. Or we would already be there.
You’re going to get hurt too idiot.
I voted for Harris. I’m a trans gal stuck in Texas who won’t be going anywhere as the result of a lease and lack of money to just pick up and leave. The meds I need to function are expensive, and right now I’m going through withdrawals for one of them because I haven’t had the time to find a new doctor to get more because Trump’s America is already fucking people over and caused my psychiatrist’s office to close down; which is part of the reason why I’m on a hair trigger right now. The other part of it is that I’m sick and disgusted by people like you. I cannot find the words to express the utter revulsion that I experience for someone like you. Just because you voted for Harris doesn’t mean your disgusting, self-centered attitude isn’t part of the reason why we’re here in the first place.
I’m so fucking glad that you’re gonna be safe and well fed in your pretty little ivory tower that you’ve built; but the rest of us are gonna be fucking miserable at best and the fact that you’ve supposedly helped a small group of people doesn’t absolve you of your shitty, sociopathic desire to throw everyone else under the bus regardless of background or political views, just so that you can get back at the people who have wronged you. Just because you’re “on the right side of history” by voting progressive doesn’t mean you get to throw everyone who lacks the means to protect themselves under the bus.
“Yeah, well, I got mine, lmao”
Go fuck yourself, you miserable excuse for a questionably human being. I hope when Trump starts rounding up people wholesale, then you’ll be one of the first to go.
So let me ask. What control do I have to change the inevitable tariffs? We lost the election and there’s no one to stop Trump. We can’t do anything to stop this. You had to take the time to prepare for it. I’m sorry about your situation. I’m ADHD and need my medication to function. Thats under attack from this administration and I’m expecting my pharmacy to tell me I’m no longer allowed to have access to my medication. But again. I’m just voicing my opinion. What do you think I can do to change any of this? I can’t do anything. I’ve voted. And I will vote next year. But besides that. I have no power.
Okay so what are you doing to prepare for this hellishness coming our way?
I put nearly 70k away and have paid off all of my debts. I lost my job recently but I picked up some shifts at a store till I can find a new job. I’m hunkering down for the long haul.
Okay none of that will help if you actually believe what you said is coming is coming so iDK why you think you’re better off than anyone
Meh. I can grow my own weed. So I’m fine. 12 plants in the ground. Should have a few pounds when they’re done. That’s usually my biggest expense. Food? I can just go to my neighbors and barter some weed for some food from the field. Beef? I can go to a friends ranch and buy half a calf. Gas? Well I work next to my house now so I will ride my bike. I’ve stored away all the extra parts I’ll need. My car? It’s in great shape. So I’m not worried about it breaking down. Unless someone crashes into me. The main concerns I have is access to my ADHD medication because of that nut job Kennedy.
nobody is asking you, personally, to fix it. but your wholehearted embracing of the suffering of others (i mean, at least you will be fine!) to “educate” is a bitter pill for people who are already struggling, and for people who rightly fear they won’t survive as readily as you will.
Sheldon Whitehouse (D) could have stopped Trump’s tariffs simply by showing up and doing his job, but he didn’t. That’s the whole point of this story.
House would not have passed it and certainly not have enough votes to overcome a Trump veto.
I wonder if he did this to force the tariffs through.
That’d be a pretty fucked up thing to do.