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    I enjoy how much of a struggle everyone in the comments is having to think of a single decent conservative rock band, let alone one like RatM. If you understand people attracted to authortarianism, it makes sense; they prefer simple over nuanced, they tend to be more likely to conform, etc, it’s quite obvious that their values run contrary to art.

    That said, conservative rock bands do exist, even if their songs aren’t. They just aren’t generally artistic or thought provoking. Smash Mouth came to mind (they shilled for Bush back in the day) and All Star is still played on the radio. I’d bet if you dug around, you’d probably find more of those 90s pop rock folks orient right.

    Although even trying to think of annoying 90s songs led me down a weird rabbit hole. Like, you know that song “Two Princes” by Spin Doctors? Turns out one Spin Doctor is a major atheist activist. So who knows?

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    This is why the right are called reactionaries. This guy doesn’t wanna make music. He wants to oppose the left.

    That is the ideology. There is no through line in conservative thought besides opposition to emancipotory movements. Small government, abortion, guns, religion, tradition, and the family are not values, but ramparts and trenches in the war with the left.

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    Can’t wait to see their set with such time honoured bangers as

    • Know Your Neighbour
    • Suburban Rebellion
    • Go To Sleep
    • Tarrifs In The Name Of
    • Convicted Fellons On Parade
    • People Of The Mar-a-Lago
    • RussiaNow
    • Freedom Radio
    • Preach
    • New Boomer Homes

    And many many more.

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    I’ve noticed every conservative song can’t quite keep their lack of skills for symbolism for the whole song. The closest they ever came was the dude singing about the rich men north of richmond, but even then, he had to shit on poor people in poor health. Truly a man of the people.

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      That song isn’t written from the perspective you think it is. Oliver Anthony came out staunchly against the hard right who tried to take his song as a rallying cry against welfare recipients.

      He is saying that we are misappropriating funds that could supply healthy foods to more people. Instead, some are abusing the system to become more unhealthy. The reason thst they get this unhealthy food is (from the song’s perspective) because the country doesn’t do anything to support mental health and this is their chosen outlet.

      “Lord we’ve got folks in the street who aint got nothing to eat And the obese milkin’ welfare If your five foot three and three hundred pounds Taxes ought to not pay for your bags of fudge rounds Young men are putting themselves 6 feet in the ground Because all this damn country does is keep kicking them down”

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        I am very dubious of Oliver Anthony’s attempts to retcon his words. If he didn’t come out and try to gaslight us into thinking it’s about how government food stamps aren’t enough to eat healthy or pigeonholing mental health in there then I’d be more amicable to his childish over simplifications and both-sidisms. It’s fine if you don’t know about politics, but when you lie about your lyrics, your narratives inherently take on new meanings. The lyrics were not symbolic enough to be misinterpreted. He said the government ought not pay for your unhealthy food choices… He meandered about other bullshit in the lyrics, but I guess he forgot to mention the actual thing he was talking about.

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        IDK what this dude has in his heart, but he thinks about wealth, power, and corruption geographically. I can’t say he is a confederate, but I can say he thinks like one.

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          He’s singing about lived experience in the South. Did you expect him to address the whole nation or globe? As Stephen King often says, write about what you know.

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        Replying to my own reply.

        “I mean, we are the melting pot of the world, and that’s what makes us strong, is our diversity, and we need to learn to harness that and appreciate it, and not use it as a political tool to keep everyone separate from each other you know?”

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      I’m curious what other conservative songs are out there. I’m trying to think of a banger that’s even remotely conservative/political but I’m coming up blank.

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        You could argue “Brought to your courtesy of the red white and blue” song after 911 was conservative. It’s still devoid of symbolism except for patriotic slop everyone understands

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        Not that any of it is a banger, but kid rock and lil pump come to mind.

        As they might be giants put it: “The Fascists have the outfits But I don’t care for the outfits What I care about is music And the Communists have the music”

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          I see, yeah I don’t listen to dipshit rock and I don’t think I’ve heard of lil pump.

          Maybe I was the wrong person to ask that question lmao.

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        There was a list floating around (before Trump) of songs that, with sufficiently motivated reasoning, could be claimed for conservatism. I don’t remember the entirety of it, but I recall The Beatles’ “Taxman”, and the reasoning that taxes are bad, being a representative example.

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        Tom McDonald (?) is an awful rightwing rapper. No bangers to be found but he’s got a lot of songs (and I recommend none of them)

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    The fact that they’d want to make a “Rage Against the Machine” band based off of political views means they missed the idea of “Rage Against the Machine” entirely.

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    Most left/social/minority/lower-class/marginalized music and bands developed because they come from a lot of oppression and dispossession from authority and powerful wealthy groups that seek to hold them down.

    Rap and hip-hop was born out of the black US ghettos from young people who were fed up with the poverty and drugs made worse (and sometimes caused) by government and authority and protected by the police. Rock, metal, alternative, grunge were all born out of young people wanting to break away from the modern straight uptight conservative moralistic world everyone was forced or made to feel to take part in. New wave and pop were born out of young people who just wanted to stand out and be heard and in the 80s used it as a vehicle for political messages (especially about constant danger of nuclear armageddon during the Cold War era)

    I’m sure there are angry anxious young men and women from wealthy backgrounds who feel that their freedoms are being taken away … but they will always be completely outnumbered by the millions and billions of poor and near poor people who look at them as the enemy.

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    “yeah hi I’m not conservative but I’m someone who also likes freedom! Not just freedom for me, but freedom for everyone, including those who don’t look and act like me!”

    These don’t seem to undeestand. When you play the song of punk out, it sings that true freedom means solidarity, not conformity.

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    I thought about rewriting a RATM song’s lyrics to parody this dumb ass concept but then I remembered the only successful neo nazi songs are popular songs with racist hateful lyrics, because they’re all uncreative twat waffles.