• Peppycito@sh.itjust.works
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      An unpopular opinion, but I’m not buying a conspiracy either. The guy wanted to hurt Boeing, had just finished testifying and saw the writing on the wall that Boeing was going to walk, and decided to kill himself as a last stab at bringing attention to it. Worked like a charm too.

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        This is not an unpopular opinion, the people here are just unhinged. It’s the other side of the same qanon coin.

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        It’s only unpopular because every time someone dies that’s even tangentially associated with some corporate fuckery the internet instantly calls it an assassination. It’s absolutely stupid, but the hive mind seems to be geared to desperately want everything to be a conspiracy. No better than the conservatives making vaccines a conspiracy.

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          If only we had the refrence of past experiences to better predict how corporations act in the future.

          Chiquita banana hired paramilitary death squads to secure their bananas and they were never punished.

          Hell, just a few years ago the US couped Bolivia so Elon could have cheap lithium.

          The bigger conspiracy nut theory is ignoring observable reality to make corpos the good guys.

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            Don’t put words in my mouth.

            In no way shape or form do I view corporations as “good guys”. They are greedy, destructive on multiple levels, self-serving, cold, and often straight up evil.

            Nobody here has observed shit except a someone died associated with a court case against a corporation. Everything here calling it a conspiracy is conjecture and made up opinion.

            The hiring of paramilitary death squads and what banana republics are is a completely different and tragic issue that extends far beyond what a single “hit” on an individual is.

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                You picked a side

                Yeah. They picked truth and honesty over sensationalism.

                Spreading lies about corporations doesn’t help. They’re bad enough anyways; we don’t need to make up stories about them to paint them in a bad light, they’re perfectly capable of painting themselves.

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                  The braindead people out there who fight against you understand that playing devils advocate means you are advocating for the devil.

                  It’s sad that the college educated are incapable of understanding this.

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          Equating whistleblowers being killed to vaccine conspiracies shows how well people have been brainwashed into state obedience. Any narrative goes.

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            Evaluating everything as a conspiracy shows how well people have become incapable of critical thinking and applying cold logic and skepticism to both sides of the equation. Any narrative goes.

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                He was not killed.

                He did kill himself.

                My suspicion is there were deliberate steps to take him off suicide watch and allow him the unsupervised time and means with which to kill himself. He knew he was fucked and his life was over forever coupled with scores of people wanting him dead, along with being raked over the coals to roll over on rich and powerful people. But apparently that’s not enough for people, they have to manufacture a murder.

                But no, he was not murdered.

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      there’s proof it wasn’t a suicide in the article you’ve linked there… well, it’s not the same as having the complete police report, buuut:

      finger was still on the trigger when officers attempted to remove the gun from his hand. A police report states no fingerprints were recovered from the gun.

      so, he wiped down the gun and bullets for fingerprints, and then shot himself?
      sounds a lot like someone else shot him or put the gun in his hand and made him shoot himself (like by threatening his family)… and a shiny silver revolver is great for collecting fingerprints….
      could’ve been an omitted detail… or soaked in blood?

      they mention his fingerprints were found all over his notebook, so that seems pretty inconsistent….
      ….
      i’ll just go smoke my Sherlock Holmes pipe now….

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        Let me get this straight. You think somebody else wiped down the fingerprints on the gun, shot him, and then stuck his finger on the trigger without thinking about creating any fingerprints? Does seem like someone half-assed the wrong step of that operation…

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        You’ve misread the passive language here. ‘no prints were recovered’ can mean that they tried to find prints and couldn’t, or that they never even bothered to try getting prints off the gun.

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          I’ll admit, this irks me in mystery shows. Those don’t seem like something you’d reliably get.

          “Sir, just as you predicted, we found the kitchen knife in the third drainage grate of the northern side of the city sewage system, wrapped loosely in five layers of cheesecloth, wadded with human waste. And, we’ve performed a DNA and fingerprint analysis on the handle. The prints perfectly match your suspect, sir!”

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          i didn’t, i noted that the presence of prints on the notebook implies an effort to obtain fingerprints on things. the gun description is particularly good for collecting prints, and i know all sorts of random things could explain that otherwise… i do find it curious, however

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          Also, people need to understand that not everything you touch will 100% have your fingerprints.

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          It could also mean no print were recovered other than his obviously which they may have just not bothered to mention

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        like by threatening his family

        Exactly. Boeing investors/management maybe didn’t kill anybody. They simply asked him if he loved $familyMember1 ($age, $location, $bestFriend), $familyMember2 ($age, $location…)…