• chaosCruiser@futurology.today
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    21 hours ago

    Many Germans were wondering the same thing nearly a hundred years ago.

    Some of them decided to move while they still had the chance. You could say it’s traditional to move across the ocean if your country becomes a totalitarian dictatorship. The other options aren’t that nice though. Once the system falls apart you could be judged for just going with the flow.

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      19 hours ago

      Where can Americans even go? It’s not like immigrating is easy, most of us can’t afford it and Western Europe is no guarantee considering vlad is breathing down their neck

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        Plenty of places for Americans to go, but they have to give up some of their luxuries and entitlement.

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        If you face:

        • danger of torture
        • risk to your life
        • risk of cruel and unusual treatment or punishment

        https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/asylum/in-canada/eligibility.html

        If you enter Canada from the U.S.
        […]
        Your claim may not be eligible if you entered Canada from the U.S.:

        • at an official land border crossing
          or
        • anywhere along the border, including rivers, lakes and other waterways, and made a refugee claim less than 14 days after the day that you entered
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          Canada and some European countries have accepted refugees from the US but from what I’ve read it’s incredibly rate and requires and extraordinary amount of proof that your life is under threat and you have no other choice than to move to those countries.

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            Occasionally, I watch some queer videos on YT, just to see how they see the world from their perspective. Recently, the tone has shifted and some are even advising other people to go back into the closet. Especially gender minorities appear to be afraid of what’s going on these days. Maybe someone in that category could convincingly claim that their life is in danger. I wonder if it also applies to gay people.

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            I’d imagine that’s because of the STCA, but there seems to be a loophole where it doesn’t apply if you enter via water and don’t claim refugee status before 14 days.

            If I were really determined, I’d at least ask an immigration lawyer about it, and then I’d plan on taking a 2 week camping trip in Canada when I thought shit was likely to go down.

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        18 hours ago

        Vlad can’t do shit in Western Europe. The bigger danger are our own right wing assholes pushed by Russia, American owned (social) media and TikTok

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      18 hours ago

      No country is going to be welcoming to refugees from a shithole country like America, and our notorious reputation for arrogance isn’t going to work on our favor.

      If you have a lot of money, or have an in-demand skill, perhaps they’ll take you, but any American in a new country is going to face the same difficulties that immigrants in America face - discrimination, crime, exploitation, difficulty in finding jobs, bigotry, etc.

      Better to stay in America and fight back.