cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/25042034
This post is “FYI only” for blahaj lemmy members. It is not a debate, and is not intended for non blahaj lemmy users to weigh in and offer opinions.
I recently received reports of a feddit.uk user espousing transphobia. Specifically, this was a feddit.uk user refusing to use the word cis, repeating the “adult human female” dog whistle, and claiming that trans women are not women. I approached a member of the feddit.uk admin team and raised my concerns and sought clarification of their stance on posts like this, where the transphobia is mostly dogwhistles, and “civil disagreement” on the validity of trans folk.
I was told by the feddit.uk admin that their preferred response is this kind of transphobia is to “sort it out through discussion and voting”. However, the comments in question are currently more upvoted than downvoted, and little “sorting out” has occurred. The posts remain in place.
At this point, the admin stopped responding to my messages despite being active elsewhere on lemmy. When it became clear they were ignoring my messages and had no intention of removing the posts in question, I made the decision to defederate the instance.
I know some folk agree with the feddit.uk admins approach of pushback through discussion and voting, but this instance is not designed to be that kind of space. Blahaj lemmy is meant to be a place where we can avoid the rampant transphobia universally visible on nearly every other social media platform, and where we can exist without needing to debate our right to do so.
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“These people”
For crying out loud.
Children *
Boy
That doesn’t make it better.
It makes it more smug and condescending.
You picked two words from comment and ignored the thesis…
You expect me to play ball?
No, no, the only thing I expect of you is smugness and condescension. It’s pretty much all you ever do.
Seriously, go back through your own user history. Read it like someone else would if they stumbled across you randomly. I’m not saying you have to change, but don’t pretend you’re not just running around lemmy swinging dick.
Everyone has patterns. We all fall into habits, ways of saying things, word choices. Yours are consistently nasty, even when there’s no point to being so.
Thing is, behind all of that nastiness and condescension seems to be a person with some degree of passion. But it’s buried so deep that it eventually just becomes tiresome to keep trying to find the human in there. It comes off like you’re just trying to fuck with people. If that’s your goal, keep at it. If it isn’t? Maybe slow down some and consider the outcomes of your choices.
Read The Parable of the Nazi Bar.
There is a simple answer to the Nazi Bar parable. Deconstruct the ideology into elements. Use fine lines to combat the blurry lines the Nazi is exploiting. It’s not rocket science, it’s literally how Reddit operates. Not that anyone here would know that.
How is this relevant?
Did you read the alleged offending text? It’s not transphobic, let alone Nazi.
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Sorry, who is Leni?
I wouldn’t leave it to just trolling and illegal stuff. Spamming obvious propaganda, shitting up a digital space with dumb bullshit (doesn’t have to political, just distracting and irrelevant), commercial spam, baiting users to piss them off. There are many situations were mod actions are justified.
But this is definitely not the case.
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Not sure why you’re bringing me into this. First, I’m not, and never have been, transphobic. My gf is transgender and beautiful. Secondly, I don’t even know this Leni person.
Feel free to hate me, but do you really have to bring up my name every single time someone says something controversial?
Besides, I never even did anything controversial except vote for the Socialist candidate instead of Democratic candidate in the election. Only fucking Lemmy would call that controversial.
I stand by my voting record. You all are obsessed! lol
The “Leni person” was banned in your instance because she condemned those who promote violence against Luigi Mangione and it ended up in !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Sure, but the comment (which has since been removed by mod for witch-hunting) bizarrely brought up my name in the conversation. I didn’t ban Leni, nor do I have anything to do with Leni.
It was just a bizarre name drop that had nothing to do with the discussion. I’m not involved in any of the dealings in this thread or the OP.
Thanks for the context.
Now I truly understand why the individual was referred to as a clown. 🤣
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You: Thanks for the context.
You might want to check to make sure you weren’t fed info that has been spin-doctored. Because that’s exactly what’s going on.
Someone who has had a mix of things in her past that she regrets but made up for and things that are easy to take out of context or exaggerate (and who has had people follow her everywhere who don’t care which is which because they want to blemish her as much as possible), with many of the examples you were given having been removed by rule enforcers on the basis of going against genuineness, if that serves to indicate you fell for others’ dishonesty.
https://thebrainbin.org/u/@shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee
Leni is another hadnle that’s easier to spell
I think trolling covers most of what you listed but I definitely missed commercial spam. I forgot about since this ain’t reddit. But yeah that’s definitely deserves a ban.
Got it.
Yeah, I guess most of what I listed does fall under trolling.
I just hope other instances don’t follow BLZ on this issue. It is completely unjustified.
How have I done any of that?
I don’t think you are trolling. You are just off. Hence why I do not support you being censored.
You should have the ability to express yourself if this is your real opinions. Content itself is clown grade tho
May I ask how so?
In case you haven’t noticed, I’m not relevant to any of this either. You’re the first person to bring me up and what all this hoopla about me right now is based on. I’m not sure how someone is a clown for sticking to values she is always willing to discuss.
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By that logic, those who praise Luigi Mangione are fascists.
That doesn’t mean everyone telling you to stop overreacting is a fascist.
Correct.
There is one for a boy who cried wolf ;)
Other of Aesop’s Fables you should read:
The Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing
The Four Oxen and the Lion
The One-Eyed Doe
The Wolf and the Kid
The Horse, Hunter, and Stag
What is it with you and your grudge against me? All because I listened to people higher than me and temporarily removed you from a community for trying to dog whistle that Luigi guy (or is this based on year-old claims that have fallen apart in the face of discussion). You’re not even removed anymore, so who again is demonstrating what kind of demeanor here?
Your record speaks for itself dear but I never demand you being censored
In a world where misinformation justifies itself that way and where you have indeed existentially rallied against me on multiple occasions, both parts of what you just said are debatable.
That’s how a discussion works
People can make up their own opinions based on what is presented
A statement which directly challenges and is challenged by your earlier one that “my records speak for themselves”.
Correct. Your content borders on incoherent at best.
You left 50+ comments in this thread defending Elon Musk and the infamous AfD party known for its nazi rhetoric, even after being shown official posters from the AfD party which had nazi salutes in them. You abused mod powers before you were removed as a mod.
When UniversalMonk got banned you made these types of comments, repeatedly.
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=999488
I’ll be honest, that definitely doesn’t sound like an abuse of mod powers to me. She acted on those who tried to incite violence against people with money. Lemmy has the worst reputation of all time across the web, with even Tumblr blocking most fediverse links, and the worst thing one can discourage is the occasional reasonable opinion on here. The admins probably asked her to do it, and whatever happened upon her defending Musk seems to make the same mindset crystal clear.
Modlogs lie too, and admins overreact. Look at the OP. That’s the whole point here. Are you telling me you’ve never been banned from another website for reasons that didn’t apply to you? I don’t agree with everything she says, but she is right to take it all with a grain of salt, and the fact she said so was spoken in a way that proves all her points.
“Joined 6 days ago”
Tomorrow I will have joined 7 days ago. And the day after that, 8 days ago.
Yet this is the thread I woke up to today. I could’ve woken up to it yesterday if I knew it would please ya.