• BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
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      We need to get more creative if not more disruptive. People are sign waving and gathering and occasionally there are special speakers, but it’s pretty much just an open air meetup. Images need to be bolder (not the photos, but the imagery) so organizations like NPR have more to be tell. This Easter weekend it would’ve been epic and very appropriate to have someone non-White dress up as Jesus, carrying the cross, and have people shout things like, “Vermin! Rapist! You’re poisoning our nations blood! Go back to Nazereth!” Depict the horrible rhetoric from the right that wouldn’t have made an exception for the Son of God because he wasn’t born here.

      I also had an idea about a Nationwide effort to basically have a one-minute strike. One minute of doing absolutely nothing and everyone else would be quite freaked out by this, maybe even ask questions.

      We can’t just make noise, we need to disrupt things.

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        We have been doing one day strikes.

        One minute is nothing. One day is weak sauce but gets people in the habit of solidarity.

        We need a week strike. Buy nothing, don’t go to work, nobody, anywhere in the country.

        That would get their attention.

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          You mean the one day strikes where nobody was inconvenienced or even noticed because we just stayed at home and watched TV? A week long strike would be impactful but we need coordination and momentum. We also need noteriety. Simply not going outside for a week might not be noticed until a month later when economic numbers look funky.

          A minute strike, in and of itself not super impactful economically, is incredibly easy to do and can be done wherever you are without impacting your own routine that much. When it happens though, in the moment, it should be a stark difference that nobody is moving or talking or driving. It’s also unlikely to get someone fired for doing it in the middle of a shift. If it catches on, it can roll into two minutes straight or one minute an hour.

          It doesn’t have to be the only thing we do or the Pinnacle of what we do to fight back. I’m just saying, unless we can get 5-10% of the population to join in, particularly in red states, it will still be incredibly easy to ignore the protests.

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        From a total outsiders perspective (I don’t live in in the US) who has some experience in organising protests(doing so since I am 14, ran for a state rep. here,etc.): You need to find a more unified way of protesting. Yes,that can be creative,but the message has to be far more unified than it is currently.

        To give you an example what I mean: I made the effort to look up foreign press coverage,some domnestic press coverage, social media and photos taken by friends of mine of one rather prominent protest location of the most recent ones.

        So far I came across the following messages:

        • Pro Palestina

        • Pro Feminism

        • Pro Ukraine

        • Pro Supreme Court

        • Pro National parks and environmental conservation

        • Pro various, contending Democrats and some smaller Parties

        • Pro Diversity

        • Pro LGBTQ

        • Pro Choice

        • Against Deportations

        • Against Supreme Court

        • Against Trump personally

        • Against the Reps

        • Against science influence/budget cuts

        • Against influencing universities

        • Against Tate and Musk

        • Against USaid Cuts

        • Against US government cuts

        • Against tariffs

        • Against Milei

        • Against Gun Violence

        • Against Violence in Dafur

        And surely a few more I am missing/forgot. Don’t get me wrong, the USA have a lot of pressing issues. But people will judge a book by it’s cover and while we all often pretend that the issue each one of us finds the most important IS the MOST IMPORTANT and anyone that doesn’t think the same is an idiot, we tend to not see the wood amgonst all the trees. Because there is one drawback in this stance: Everyone has it. And once you declare “this topic is the most important” the people who support the other 40 topics as the most important topics are alienated. Which leads to infighting, some not showing up, etc. (If this reminds you of Life of Brian, well, it’s a very factual movie in that regard)

        But there is ONE main issue: The Trump government. While it can sometimes be useful to choose a cause that unites the people behind one even though that is not the main issue, these have to be choosen wisely. (Türkiye is one recent example: The problem is not that Imanoglu has been arrested. Nor was the problem about Gezi park back then. But it’s a cause that unites the people)

        This needs to be done fast and much more coordinated and "reaching all areas of society " than it is currently visible. To give you an example: European Anti-Fascist protests are often formed by a coalition of trade unions, political parties (and we are talking not about “leftist” parties but parties than are rather “mid left”,e.g. Greens, social democrats, etc.), churches, sport clubs and similar social circles. Why do they bother? Because they all know if Fascism ever comes back it will get them all one after another. Just like it is now.

        And yes, 50501 is a good start,but support is lacking - because of the “most important topic” issues.

        This goes both ways: If on one side you need to talk about unification of people - but you do also need to shed the political groups that are not helping but actually hurting the main cause. To give you an example (and this is not taking a stance in the Palestina issue, it’s just a good example that came up today during an interview): If your protest is associated with a group that uses the Hamas triangle and sees the Palestina topic as the one and only topic worth protesting for, they are hurting the main issue, their own issue (with an USA in full flight Fascism that protects Bibi doing whatever he likes Gaza will be “a summertime stroll” compared to what will follow) and alienate regular Joe and Jane as well as give the opposing side verbal ammunition to fight the whole movement. (Why I did choose this example: During the protest I looked up a foreign journalist did interview a spoksperson of some group - who was very well trained and did, despite her young age and obvious nervousness, an outstanding job- and some idiots wearing the triangle similar to the yellow jewish star worn during the Holocaust, screamed in the camera and tried to sideline the interview because anyone not willing to listen to their (very much genocidal) monologues would just tolerate children being killed.

        Now, imagine Jane Average,40, who is afraid that her brother in law,who is an legal immigrant, gets deported, has more and nore problems putting food on the table due to rising costs, is afraid that her husband is loosing his job over the tarrifs and how the world will be for her daughters sees this. For years Jane Average has been voting democrats,yes. But she didn’t go out of her way to do so. She is now considering going to a protest - the first one in her life.

        But what are they actually protesting for? And aren’t they all idiots like the one she saw on TV? And,unknown to her, her friend Juliet Somebody is also considering. If she would hear from Jane that she is going,she would go as well…etc.

        TLDR: Unify your message, shed idiots, get the whole society behind one cause.

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        This is brilliant - make the protests artistically interesting.

        Most of the grown-up theater kids are already there anyway.

        The main challenge will be making sure the message is still seen as serious. But I think your idea about showing how MAGA are on the opposite side as someone most of them claim to worship is brilliant.

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          I saw several old people last Saturday dressed like the Statue of Liberty… ? I guess we should have thrown red paint on them and called the local newspaper?

          That’s actually not a bad idea now that I’ve written it out.

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      Seems to be more what is there to report on other than people pissed. There’s no clear organized message or demands. Everyone just rambling off their complaints. Needs more structure and leadership or it’ll wind up like occupy

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          Having more protests like the one from a couple weeks ago, where it was packed everywhere while having young and old, says a ton more than causing damage. The more drama, the more reason to send you to Guantanamo. Keep it peaceful and keep it huge is my very strong opinion.

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            I agree with you if press coverage is there. They’re not covering the protests because they’re not interesting, though.

            That said, I’d call this lazy journalism. How about going out there to interview people? Start telling the stories of the people they talk with?

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            what really says a ton is somehow losing them money. like closing off a big highway in rush hour will probably get more attention (and possibly state violence). that would at least get them to consider listening.

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          Everyone wants more change. Everyone wants the fascists to fail miserably because, well, they’re fascists.

          The goal is to slowly steer the Exxon Valdez so it avoids the coastline and doesn’t capsize. In this metaphor, violence (even the stuff we allow them to start) will capsize the Valdez.

          Demonstrations aren’t always about drama: they’re about the show of potential resistance as well.

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      Did you know, that on every train crossings there are phone numbers that you can call to let them know something is blocking the tracks?

      It sure would be inconvenient and/or disruptive enough to protest near commuter train crossings and inform them it’s unsafe for them to operate their trains. Shut down commuter trains (in a safe manner) and you’ll probably get some headlines.

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      Create something beyond your control. Something that does not need to be controlled.

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      Bingo. You get a gold star and a book of matches. Styrofoam and gasoline friend. Styrofoam and gasoline.

      I just saw someone who suggested golf courses. Fucking brilliant I think.