• MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.today
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    4 days ago

    Hard evidence, preferably. I’m not interested in hearsay or conspiracy theories. There’s enough of that out there already.

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        4 days ago

        Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities. (p. 181)

        Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him. (p. 214)

        This is literally the definition of “inconclusive evidence”.

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          3 days ago

          Not coordinated doesn’t mean Russians didn’t influence, which is the topic discussed…

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            3 days ago

            I still don’t see how that makes them more dangerous to Americans than violent foreign gangs. MS-13 are known to chop people up with machetes, the US government generally is not, no matter who’s president. Sure, they certainly have the means to be a massive pain in the butt, but unless you’re convicted first degree murder or threaten the police with a deadly weapon, they’ll generally leave you alive and with all your limbs intact.

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                3 days ago

                Could you be more precise? Because I don’t really have a problem with foreign criminal gang members getting deported, especially if they came here illegally in the first place. No country has an obligation to harbor criminal aliens within their borders.

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                  It’s not whether it’s a problem or not, it’s which one is the bigger problem.

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            4 days ago

            Were these my claims?

            I firmly believe, and the evidence supports, Russia has deployed a widespread disinformation campaign against America and has infiltrated the highest levels of government.

            I mean. Yeah. They were.

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                Right, so… I’m going to stop you right here. The moment you opened with your little schoolyard insult- I stopped reading and checked your comment history.

                Because who you are is a direct image projected by what you say. And I like to know who I’m talking to.

                Apparently, you’re a child.

                I don’t discuss adult topics with children.

                If you want to be taken seriously, learn to have serious discussions and stop acting like a child.

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              4 days ago

              TBF, the report DID find some evidence of these things, just not enough to be meaningfully prosecutable.

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                You asked for evidence.

                Then you disputed the evidence presented.

                Then you admit that there was evidence but not enough to prosecute. That was the same evidence you just disputed.

                Seems like you won’t be satisfied with anything other than your preconceived beliefs.

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                People were tried and convicted. You would know this if read the thing and didn’t read bill bars one page deflection and ctrl-s the bullshit you wanted to find.

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                    Exactly, because they were compromised. They could not answer those questions because they would incriminate themselves.

                    Or worse (better depending on whos asking) trump.

                    Edit:

                    If you can read the mueller report and walk away this incredulous you either:

                    1. Haven’t read it

                    2. Aren’t interested in the truth