Trump
We should be concerned about both.
The Latin American gang crisis is real. Biden wanted to tackle it, and Congress said no. They have funding from c#ina to create issues at our border to destabilize us.
Of course, every single arrested person deserves due process. Many are being targeted maliciously right now under false pretenses.
Ruzzia is of course the greater threat. They are also very weak right now. Their victory with US sabotage is honestly their biggest win in decades, and their other fronts are utter failures. But their cruelty and focus on our demise has resulted in a surgical counterintelligence strike that will forever harm American life much moreso that the Latin American gangs.
The greatest threat is c#ina, should they get more involved.
Well my retirement isn’t down because of ms-13
Gangs are bad. Thing is, you don’t fight gangs with military you fight them with relief. Gangs thrive on the hurt people and people who are suffering. If you relieve the hurt and suffering poverty causes you destroy the gangs ability to recruit.
Trump.
We count that as russia.
No you dont
We do
That’s a joke right? MS-13 isn’t trying to invade Ukraine.
Not a joke, apparently, read the other comments.
Okay, I read them. What’s your point? What are your intentions? Put me down for Russia ig.
Point is some people take the threat of MS-13 way too seriously.
I’m more worried about never being able to own a home or never being able to support myself. I’m more worried that i’ll never learn another language then I am some street gang I have never seen.
Because you don’t engage with right wing media like these sick fucks. If you read the shit they are being fed you realize if these same people found jack and the bean stalk in the nonfiction section they would put a nation wide ban on beans.
It’s an artificial crisis planned by the trump admin years ago
https://apnews.com/general-news-international-news-88ba0f2a51b35bf8195e886d4210e5c3
Considering Russia kind of just put the final nail in the coffin for your democracy, probably Russia
Americans should be concerned about Trump and his goons first and foremost - the “homegrown” criminal gang.
Seriously, had you heard about MS-13 before Trump?
Americans should be concerned about Trump and his goons first and foremost
Soooooooo…. You’re saying Russia then.
Yes
It was probably one of the few buttons america even had before trump.
Ms-13, Isis, Blm and that was fox news
Ms-13, Isis, Blm and that was fox news
E-xactly.
I guess it depends on how many nuclear weapons MS-13 has.
- international: Russia (and their puppet, Trump)
- domestic: we have enough racist, fascist domestic terrorists (ex. Proud Boys, Patriot Front, etc., etc.) that pose far more of a threat to the US than MS-13
The only other time I had ever heard of MS-13 was the psyopathic rantings of a former cop I worked with briefly. Hmmm… wonder why they aren’t a cop anymore?
They should be concerned about the dictator problem they have at home.
None, go fix yourself first, clinically depressed pooch.
the forces task with each risk are entirely separate. the states should police for internal gang activity. the feds should be fucking freaked out over russia just deciding to invade other soverieng nations for zero reason.
but that was back when the united states had a functioning government. those days are long gone.
MS-13 or Russia
neither of those are real concerns tbh. Americans should be concerned about housing, feeding and providing medical care to everyone before worrying about external threats.
Russia is affecting those things in the us though. Maybe if the gop weren’t in russias pocket you’d be more on point.
Russia is affecting those things in the us though.
People being unhoused, going hungry and without healthcare is bipartisan consensus in the US and Russia has nothing to do with that.
and Russia has nothing to do with that.
Except the gop is in russias pocket
Not all of the countries problems can simply be attributed to ‘the enemy’ on the other side of the planet. The dysfunction I’m pointing out is home grown and enabled on both sides. The republicans are obviously worse, the democrats prevent anything better.
That completely ignores where the battle is being fought. Right now social media has a strangle hold on the discussion around politics in America. If misinformation/disinformation isn’t countered effectively the GOP wins out. That means there is no hope for the homeless, universal access to Healthcare, and every other legitimate function of goverment that the GOP are attacking.
I don’t recall attributing all the countries problems on Russia and the gop. Most of the dems are gop lite. There are some that do work towards housing and feeding. Like school lunch and breakfast programs.
Fair
Russia.
One of them is a heavily armed criminal gang which operates locally and engages in violent crime, murder, and human trafficking, the other is somewhere on the other side of the world and currently fairly busy expending massive amounts of military resources trying to occupy a few provinces of a neighboring country.
This feels like asking if you should be more worried about domestic rattlesnakes or lions in Africa.
It’s cute that you think they’re all on the other side of the world. You must feel very safe.
I envy you.
I haven’t heard of any armed, violent Russian criminal gangs operating on US territory in recent years, so yeah, I’m less worried about them than the ones that are known to operate here.
Just wait…
Okay. I’ll check back in when the Russians are at my door.
See, it’s funny because you think that everyone sharing this is insinuating that Russia’s army is here. Or that it’s being implied that they’re here en masse in any conceivable way.
No one is saying this-
But if you think the White House isn’t compromised, I’ve got a bridge to sell you if you’ve got the рубль.
That may be the case, but what immediate danger does that pose to me? I’d be more worried about armed gangs in my neighborhood than spooks in Washington, because the former would likely pose a more immediate threat to my life than the latter.
How does it affect you? If a neighbour who doesn’t like you can just call the police, tell them you’re in a gang, and get you deported without due process that will absolutely affect you.
PS the world is in this state because of unempathetic people like you.
The spooks in Washington will soon be controlling the armed gangs in your neighborhood. Only those gangs will have an American flag on their sleeve.
I have a feeling that line between the former and the later will blur much faster than you think.
So your position is russia raises no threat to America. I’ll write that one down.
No, that is not what he said at all.
Tell me how lions in Africa are a threat to Americans
Oh, fuck off.
What. Logic escapes you all the sudden?
I wouldn’t say none whatsoever, but comparatively little. They’re already engaged in a fairly high stakes military operation costing them massive amounts of resources and manpower every year and constantly teetering on the edge of triggering a NATO involvement. Yeah they have nukes, but if they really wanted an all-out war, don’t you think they would have dropped one already?
I’d say chances are very low. First of all, the US likely has a capable early warning system and the ability to intercept a nuclear warhead in-flight, and second, the potential retaliation would likely be horrifying and not worth the risk. Worrying about armed criminal gang members who are already in the country seems to be a lot more sensible to me because they pose a more immediate threat.
I firmly believe, and the evidence supports, Russia has deployed a widespread disinformation campaign against America and has infiltrated the highest levels of government.
Do you have any evidence for that belief?
Before we do all that you tell me what sources you will accept.
Hard evidence, preferably. I’m not interested in hearsay or conspiracy theories. There’s enough of that out there already.
So, it’s about time you read it then.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/18/politics/full-mueller-report-pdf/index.html
