• Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 days ago

    Everything is such a disaster. I can’t imagine any value in sensationalizing a headline and article like this that isn’t motivated by driving traffic and distracting well meaning people whichever direction they can for their own capitalistic purposes.

    Fixed: “Associate and suspected MS-13 member detained by ICE.

    Nobody wants to watch their mom getting apprehended but it’s part of the game, you don’t get to play with gangs if you aren’t willing to have your life get a little messy.

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      4 days ago

      The 5th amendment tends to require indictment by grand jury before any criminal charges.

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      4 days ago

      You are being weird about so some getting kidnapped off the street with no allegations that require evidence being made?

      I hereby accuse you of association with MS13. Would it be acceptable to disappear you based on my accusation? No? Then fuck off, you are being a hateful little fuck.

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      ah, well if the gestapo insists she’s a criminal, then it must be true! they’ve never been known to make a mistake or flat out lie before, it’s absolutely unheard of 🤡

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        I don’t support ICE or any of the fascist hate fueled garbage going on right now if that’s your inference from my post. My critique is the baseless distraction of the sensationalist article that does nothing other than undermine actual ongoing atrocities.

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          The headline should be what ICE says

          I don’t support ICE or…

          Fucking pick one, if you’re being genuine and you think this headline is sensationalist, I have some bad news for you…

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      Yes an MS-13 member, exactly as the US government just described the person they “accidentally” deported and now “can’t” get back, but also they don’t want him back because actually he’s an MS-13 member don’t you know? What’s that he has no criminal record or ties to that gang? But the federal government just said in court he does?!?

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      you don’t get to play with gangs if you aren’t willing to have your life get a little messy.

      what evidence is there of this claim?

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            Public evidence? No. It’s speculative sensational garbage reporting. Reads like a distraction from so much legit issues with foundational merit currently going on.

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              First, you are clearly not engaging. Being associated with gang members is not a crime. The entire premise for this kidnappings is illegal. They aren’t arresting her for immigration status, they are arresting her for associating with people, which is in no way a crime. This is extrajudicial behavior and the only reason I am able to determine that you are OK with it is cause she wasn’t a citizen.

              Kidnappings people off the street and sending them elsewhere without due process is a distraction…

              People being disappeared is a distraction…

              What the fuck?

              “They aren’t citizens!” You’ll say. To which I say, “go ahead and prove your citizenship, without due process, and when you can’t satisfy what I want, which in any case is to disappear you regardless, I’ll just disappear you anyways.”

              Seriously, we have been given so many reasons to not trust these people, and here you are licking their boots so that abhorrent policies can be put into place. Nah, fuck off with that shit.

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                I’m not going to waste my energy on criminal gang members. All good with destroying other peoples lives and then expect anyone to give a fuck about them? We have enough problems that deserve attention, bloviating your undying love to criminal gang members doesn’t mean jack shit to me.

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                  All good. I dont take the opinions of gang members seriously, so I be disregarding anything you say.