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    6 days ago

    Yes, I distrust claims from people who are untrustworthy, including Elon Musk and Azealia Banks. You should too.

    Azealia Banks saying something on Twitter is not “evidence”.

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        6 days ago

        Unsubstantiated gossip from a habitual liar is not evidence. Saying “yes it is” however firmly will not change that fact.

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          It is evidence detective, it’s not “good” evidence in your mind which is called an opinion since you don’t seem to understand that either.

          Evidence (2)

          one who bears witness

          https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evidence

          The result is that third parties can be subpoenaed and then served virtually anywhere in the United States; they can be made to show up for depositions and produce documents, and they can be called to give evidence at trial. Third-party testimony is a core element of civil litigation.

          https://www.troutman.com/insights/when-where-and-whether-the-confusing-law-of-third-party-evidence.html

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            4 days ago

            Since you’re quoting legal definitions, you should learn that rumors are hearsay, and hearsay is inadmissible as evidence.

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              4 days ago

              It absolutely is there are hearsay rules both federally and at the state level that determine what weight to give hearsay. Criminal law is different, but even then hearsay can be admissable, it just isn’t by default.

              Federal rules of evidence basically 801 to 807, 803, 805 and 807 (?) are specific exemptions. Notably in civil court they’d object to hearsay and the resolution is to call the person who is claimed to have said or done whatever as a witness and get their testimony making it no longer hearsay.

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                4 days ago

                Obviously, “I heard he had a penis implant” does not qualify for these exemptions.

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                  4 days ago

                  I’m sorry, again what court are we in?

                  Regardless, you’d call grimes as a witness and in civil court you do not have a fifth amendment right, they have to answer truthfully and make it no longer hearsay.

                  If you’re going to be tedious throw a little logic in there to save us both the time.

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                    4 days ago

                    The court that you conjured up to justify your use of a rumor that would inadmissable as evidence. Grimes isn’t testifying since she made no comment. In fact, there’s nothing to indicate that she is even aware of the rumor.

                    Your tedious arguments all stem from your failure to recognize that just because someone said something on social media doesn’t mean it’s credible, even if the people the rumor is about didn’t bother to acknowledge it.