• taipan@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Since you’re quoting legal definitions, you should learn that rumors are hearsay, and hearsay is inadmissible as evidence.

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      4 days ago

      It absolutely is there are hearsay rules both federally and at the state level that determine what weight to give hearsay. Criminal law is different, but even then hearsay can be admissable, it just isn’t by default.

      Federal rules of evidence basically 801 to 807, 803, 805 and 807 (?) are specific exemptions. Notably in civil court they’d object to hearsay and the resolution is to call the person who is claimed to have said or done whatever as a witness and get their testimony making it no longer hearsay.

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        4 days ago

        Obviously, “I heard he had a penis implant” does not qualify for these exemptions.

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          4 days ago

          I’m sorry, again what court are we in?

          Regardless, you’d call grimes as a witness and in civil court you do not have a fifth amendment right, they have to answer truthfully and make it no longer hearsay.

          If you’re going to be tedious throw a little logic in there to save us both the time.

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            4 days ago

            The court that you conjured up to justify your use of a rumor that would inadmissable as evidence. Grimes isn’t testifying since she made no comment. In fact, there’s nothing to indicate that she is even aware of the rumor.

            Your tedious arguments all stem from your failure to recognize that just because someone said something on social media doesn’t mean it’s credible, even if the people the rumor is about didn’t bother to acknowledge it.

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              4 days ago

              I specifically and in multiple specifically said we’re not taking about court. Yes she’s not aware aside from it being an immensely well known rumor especially right now but sure, it’s not like she’s famous for her social media acumen… Oh wait.

              That doesn’t make it not evidence, yet again that wouldn’t make it good evidence in your opinion. Two separate things though the awkward aggression is a neat addition to this particular exchange.