• RandomPrivacyGuy@lemm.ee
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    3 days ago

    most centrist are secretly fascists, they just don’t have the balls to say it outright like right wingers

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      3 days ago

      I wouldn’t go that far. Centrists, and most right wingers actually, aren’t fascist by default. They provide a fertile ground for fascism and will likely support it once it takes hold, but most of them aren’t ideologically committed to establishing an ethnostate. I mean screw them anyway; they do support protecting the capitalist aristocracy (I’m not kidding this is a central tenet of conservatism), but let’s not use the word where it doesn’t belong.

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                He persecuted socialists (basically the first people sent to concentration camps) and had capitalist policies? Any reason to suggest he was fond of Marx?

                But Mr (assumed) “proletarians_must_suffer” probably thinks that “socialism is when the state does stuff”.

                Go bother someone else in some ancap forum, where you belong.

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                  He persecuted socialists

                  Are bolsheviks socialist? Bc they also persecuted socialists, communists, anarchists, etc, etc.

                  and had capitalist policies

                  He literally limited the profitability of companies to 6%.

                  Any reason to suggest he was fond of Marx?

                  He’s non-marxist socialist. Not all socialist are Marxists. Btw, fascists are Marxists. They’re what you call “revisionists”.

                  Go bother someone else in some ancap forum, where you belong.

                  I’m not an ancap.

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                    Are bolsheviks socialist?

                    No. They were state-capitalists.

                    He literally limited the profitability of companies to 6%.

                    You agree that companies made profits. That’s a capitalist policy.

                    He’s non-marxist socialist. Not all socialist are Marxists.

                    I didn’t say whether or not he was a Marxist. All socialists apply Marxist analysis at least partially. Even Bakunin agreed with Marx’s theory.

                    Btw, fascists are Marxists.

                    🤡

                    I’m not an ancap.

                    You’re enough of an ancap for me to care how you define yourself. You’ve proven enough how little of political/historical understanding you have.