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It should be left Americano. It’s called that because Americans couldn’t handle the stronger coffee or espresso and wanted it watered down. Weak. “Americano” is kinda insulting by itself. But whatever works for you.
I used to look down on the Americano, but as I got older I realized sometimes I’m more in the mood for one than espresso or a milky drink.
It’s the same amount of coffee, just in lower concentration. You can also sip on it longer before you run out.
just drink filter coffee
At home I do but a lot of places that have great espresso make awful, neglected, drip coffee.
“Go to better places” yeah whatever
Sometimes those cheap less than perfect places are the best place around
It’s not just the product, it’s the atmosphere that matters too
Sometimes the different taste profile is nice
Why? What’s wrong with espresso based drinks?
an americano is supposed to be a facsimile of filter coffee.
It doesn’t really taste like filter coffee though. It tastes like mellowed-out espresso, which is nice sometimes
That’s one theory as of why. The other is a lack of coffee supplies during wartime.
Ya, the term was more descriptive than pejorative.
This one is ironic because the macho-mindset of needing to be STRONG and therefor only consuming hard stuff is realy American interpretation of manhood in itself.
Ya, the macho-mindset is what was offered when joes asked for the rations they were used to, not the other way around and not unique.
In Australia we call it a long black. I think it’s a great name and wish it would catch on across the pond.
Oh we call that a BBC but I’m told it’s confusing to the folks across the other pond (the real pond)
Bold Black Canadiano? I’m pretty sure that’s what it is.
Big-hearted actually, not bold
The difference is the order: long black has water on the bottom, espresso on top. Canadiano is the opposite.
Long black’s better because it preserves the crema better (it doesn’t get murdered by pouring the water on top)
I mean an Americano is just watered down espresso and AFAIK was coined to make fun of the Americans.
But what does that say about yourself when that’s apparently the kind of coffee you want?
Means you had (likely) cruddy coffee that was normalized for you since a young age, probably with loads of sugar and or milk/cream to boot.
Just the normal cycle for most people tbh.
The comfort of the known combined with an underdeveloped palette is what makes it attractive to a lot of people
It often changes and evolves with time as you grow older, kind of like when you try foods that you hated as a kid only to discover they’re really good.
Granted that only happens if you explore and experiment, otherwise you never really grow out of it
Pretty snooty outlook on coffee, especially considering that café au lait, cappuccino etc. exist.
Coffee snobs are the most hilarious variety of snob.
It’s the sincerity of the nonsense that really sets them apart.
Obviously, everyone is entitled to enjoy the drinks they like, but at least in Canada where I am from, Tim Horton’s reigns supreme, and before I started drinking my coffee black I drank their coffee all the time, but as soon as I took all the sugar and cream out of it I realized it was frankly pretty terrible.
I think that’s what Whitebrow is referring to (not even Tim’s specifically, just lower tier coffees from such chains) I also see Folgers, and Maxwell House get consumed a lot here, and I find those particular brands to be fairly low quality as well.
A Cappuccino made correctly with espresso is quite delicious, but that’s a very different beverage from brewed coffee with a lot of cream and sugar.
A well-made americano tastes great without cream and sugar, too. When Tim Horton makes a bad americano that doesn’t mean that americano is a bad drink, it means that Tim Horton makes a bad product.
Timmies coffee used to be better back in the day, but then they changed suppliers and since then it just tastes like somebody forgot it in the oven for a few hours too many.
That kinda sounds like Starbucks …
I think you missed the point.
If you never tried cafe au lait, cappuccino and others, you’d never know if you liked them or not and wouldn’t seek them out or bother to experiment with the other drinks.
Has nothing to do with being snooty, and has everything to do with sticking to the things you know and tried as opposed to going out of your way to try and discover new things.
Point is some people never go out and explore new flavours at the risk of not liking something.
Seems to be right. Not that the making fun of was accurate, but if you have a bunch of toxic men who think espresso puts hair on your chest, seeing folks drink drip coffee is probably embarrassing even though it’s objectively got more caffeine and a completely distinct flavor.
Americano is not (supposed to be) drip coffee, it’s a shot of espresso with added hot water.
Reread what I said
If it helps, assume I know what I’m talking about. That should steer you straight.
I don’t know if it was so much “Make fun of” as the sentiment was “They can’t handle it” similar to how certain cultures eat relatively spicy food tease those who can’t handle it. I don’t have direct evidence for that part, and my source was a friend of mine who was a foreign exchange student from France who explained it to me as such.
Right that’s the toxic masculinity/hair on your chest aspect. Espresso is in general easier on your stomach than drip and it’s certainly easier to drink (worst case it’s a shot). So even though the driver was toxic masculinity, as per usual that toxicity wasn’t even valid.
Ironically in the middle of being toxic the Europeans invented something called an Americano that Americans don’t drink, doesnt have the rich flavors of what it’s making fun of, has less caffeine than what it’s making fun of, and is actually harder to drink (because of the shit flavor) than the thing it waters down. It’s a massive dumb backfire driven by toxic masculinity from the romance states.
Freedomlandian here, keep it up. I’m so fucking ashamed of my country. If someone gets butthurt about petty stuff like this, good.
I’ll back you up: This likely upsets the right (in both senses of the word) people. This and all the upside-down merch. Keep going you glorious-and-upset-yet-polite people north of the border.
PS: please keep sending maple syrup, and thank you.
PS: please keep sending maple syrup, and thank you.
It’ll have a tariff, and if things ever go back to normal and the tariff is removed the price will not go down again
If you see anyone get upset about this, just tell them “freedom fries” and walk away.
It was stupid with the freedom fries and it’s still stupid today
Except freedom fries was over morons being upset France that didnt invade another country.
This is people upset over America being an awful country.
while I support Canada boycotting the US, you have to admit this in particular is “freedom fries” tier patriotism. it was embarrassing then, and it is embarrassing now.
Depends. Tongue in cheek it’s pretty funny.
I would agree if this was Mexico doing it as a response to the gulf thing… then it would have made some sense in context.
I’ll take one Mexicano please. /s
Have you not heard about the tariffs and threats of annexation from Trump?
Yes. Please refer to my original comment, once again, clearly in support of boycotting the US in actually meaningful ways. I say this would be more understandable coming from Mexico because then it would be a jab, against the US unilaterally trying to rename the Gulf of Mexico, so it would make sense to rename something named after America(ns) in return.
“Oh, you did tariffs and threatening annexation, I shall no longer call this coffee Americano” just doesn’t follow logically. And compared to the threat it is the weakest, lamest, most pathetic form of protest imaginable. That’s my point.
You are being too literal.
A better analogy is to say that it’s as lame as Freedom Fries, but it being aimed at the country that re-labeled the French Fry, so that makes it ironic and much funnier.
We changed the nane of a product because you haven’t joined us wilding an unjustified war on brown people
vs.
We changed the name of a product because you waged an unjustified trade war against us for no reason, even tough we have been your closest alley.
Not the same.
You understand how despite the differences in justification, someone can find both examples cringe, right?
I didn’t question motivations. I already said I support boycotting the US. this is not a method of protest that does anything. it’s lame and stupid. Americano is not even American, nor is it Canadian. it’s just dumb. it’s like saying you remember watching Canadian Pie as a teen.
I didn’t say it isn’t. i said it’s not American, as in it doesn’t come from the US.
Americano is not even American
I mean that’s a pretty specific phrasing.
I said it’s not American, as in it doesn’t come from the US.
Those are not the same things, but i know what you mean now, so thanks.
If politicians are pushing this particular change, it would be a bit cringe imo but I chuckled when I saw it.
Agreed that it would definitely be much worse, and maybe I wouldn’t have found it as cringe if I hadn’t seen the push for “Freedom Fries” back in the day.
Yeah, no. If you didn’t support their pointless wars back then, they would call you a traitor. Fuck me for not wanting my friends to die.
You could not support their wars, and also not stoop to their level of pettiness.
I don’t understand what this has to do with anything I said.
The “freedom fries” 20 years ago occurred because France did not want to support our stupid middle eastern wars. That spawned the stupid movement to stop calling them French fries. If you were not pro-war in the US in the early 2000’s, a lot of people would suggest you were unpatriotic.
That is why they said. Because you brought it up.
I know what Freedom Fries is. That’s why I brought it up. I don’t understand how that’s relevant to my comment that calling Americano Canadiano is dumb.
Except back then the US was the aggressor, and now the US is the aggressor. I wouldn’t equivocate “you don’t want to blindly follow me into a pointless war” to “you’re targeting me in a trade war”
My point is that neither name change actually sends either message. They’re both weak and pointless, literally inconsequential and completely self contained. Imagine the French being … hurt? annoyed? … that some fuckwits on the other side of the world don’t call fries French Fries… as if they gave a shit before. Same here.
A canadiano is actually a cup of drip coffee with two espresso shots
What desperate soul invented this, I hope they’re doing better now, wherever they are
Considering that Finns drink far more coffee than Italians, it might have something to do with living close to the pole. Those dark winters are brutal and the long light in the summer isn’t exactly great for sleep quality, either.
I could’ve sworn that was a redeye
Yes, but one shot.
Ugh.
A Canadiano sounds pretty good rn what’s in it
Americano sweetened with maple syrup. And if that’s not a thing it should be.
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It’s funny and the Americans being salty about this one, when their country is becoming more and more fascist every day, are even funnier. Get mad about real important things, not this 😂
Those Americans need to look in a mirror first, with their “freedom fries”, because France decided not to back them in their needless war in Iraq.
The last bit of this song always takes with me whenever I hear that phrase…
Freedom fries and burns and scars Liberator goes too far Freedom fries and screams and yells The promised land is a promised hell — Robert Plant from the album Mighty Rearranger
chuckles and sips Brazilian cafézinho
Cafe con aqua
Turkish coffee has been called greek coffee(in Greece and Cyprus) ever since the turkish invasion of Cyprus (50 years ago). New generations of greeks probably arent even aware of that(or it is a neat trivia that some might have heard).
America? No.
But…isn’t the Italian word for “Canadian” “canadese”?
Canadese nuts
Yes, in Italian it doesn’t ot sound right… Anyway…
As someone who knows very little of other languages…what sounds “wrong” about it?
I mean, if we called them Canadese, it would be fucking weird…but that works for countries like China, who we call Chinese.
But English is fucking weird. We are five languages duct-taped together and making up rules as we go along. We don’t even have woke gender rules like most of Europe.
No, I’m Italian and this sounds fake Italian, that’s all.
The Canadiano should be the Double Double (Double cream double sugar)
It should be coffee with moose milk.
