• Naich
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    I genuinely think that most people in the UK would rather destroy the planet than give up eating some meat.

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      1 month ago

      destroy the planet

      We’re not destroying the planet, we’re destroying our offspring (and those of many other species). The planet will still be covered in life after we’re gone.

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        This is a point that needs pushing more.

        Save the planet is not only false. But less impactful than just save humankind.

        Trying to convert humanity back to low meat diets (again a much easier sell and the real issue is mass production). It is more likely if people are convinced it is their children to great grand children that will Suffer/Die/never happen. Rather than suggesting all life will end.

        The sun god will still burn. Just like you did after the last great extinction.

        Sorry could not resist the silly joke. I’ll go hide in a bottle now

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        A high carbohydrate and so high insulin-producing plant-based diet certainly isn’t healthy for me.

        What about a low carbohydrate plant-based diet?

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            I’m not sure what you mean by "direct"ing you to a diet.

            “Eat low amounts of carbohydrates in a plant-based diet.” Is that direction enough?

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            https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/vegan

            It’s doable, but very difficult. Requires supplements.

            Protein sources are critical in this approach, I would map out the DIAAS scores of the protein sources to make sure it is complete.

            A complicating factor is it’s very difficult to hit the micro targets and protein targets and keeping the carbs <20g, so many of the vegan approaches are low carb <100g and not ketogenic

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            Read The China Study and the work by Dr Neal Bernard. Type 2 diabetes can be reversed (not always, but it can be) or reduced. My mum had her dose of type 2 meds reduced by about half when she went on a plant based diet, because her blood sugar went too low on her regular dose.

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                Traditional Indian omni diet. You don’t need to go low carb. In fact the desired ratio is 80% carbs, 10% protein, 10% fat. She still had grains and other carbs. It’s about the type of carbs (slow digesting). For example bread will nearly always be high GI because the yeast has done the digestion for you. Whereas white pasta will be lower, because it takes a long time to digest. Carbs are good, as long as it’s the right type of carbs.

                People who say they’ve reversed their diabetes by going low carb haven’t reversed it, because it would come right back if they ate carbs. It’s like saying I made my arm fireproof by not holding a flame to it. Whereas going high fibre, low fat, low GI will allow you to still eat carbs without sugar spikes.

                As I said, look into the work of Neal Barnard, who has reversed type 2 diabetes without cutting carbs and without any other lifestyle changes besides diet.

                https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FxPSvcv8GXk

                You asked to be directed. So I’ve directed you.