Hello. I wasn’t sure where to post about this and a friend directed me here. This is about AskLemmy on the Lemmy.world instance’s newly appointed mod, shinigamiookamiryuu.
For clarity reasons I am going to mention they are also known as “Triagonal” and various other aliases. I’m using a fresh account because the person this post is about is known to dox the people who expose them, like they did with Morothias here
I’m also trans, so I’d prefer it if a person who tells trans people to shoot up schools (see image below) doesn’t have access to my main account.
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Their modus operandi is this:
- They’ll do/say reprehensible things.
- When people give evidence of those reprehensible things in the form of direct links, they will call it “slander”. When this fails to work, they then try to gaslight everyone by saying “you’re taking it out of context” “you cannot speak for my intentions” , hoping people fall for it. This is a very common tactic they’ve used for years. Don’t fall for it.
- They paint themselves as a targeted victim, hoping people (including mods/admins) take their word for it and don’t look into the links that got posted.
There is a person who has an account on Lemmy, who has a 5 year long history of malicious trolling, doxing, catfishing, creepy comments they made to someone they knew was only 14, and telling a trans person to kill themselves after shooting up a school then gaslighting people on Lemmy about it by saying “where did I say anything about a shooter”. Their actions are such that multiple people are chronicling the various reprehensible things they’ve said and done and continue to do. They resort to doxing, impersonating, and harassing anyone who exposes them or isn’t on their side which is why a lot of people who call them out use fresh accounts for their own safety.
Here’s a screenshot of what they said to a trans person on Discord:
They raised a big stink on Ye Power Trippin’ Bastards for their mod actions on AskLemmy.
There are a ton of links to things the troll has posted, on their own accounts, such as when they trolled on AskLemmy on Lemmy.world by saying Elon Musk’s Nazi salute “has been debunked though” and proceeded to gaslight commenters in the comments, then locking their own thread. They are highly manipulative and try to paint themselves as a victim who is being targeted for no reason by calling the evidence in the links “slander” and saying “you can’t speak for other people’s intentions”.
Here’s them trolling about how Elon Musk’s Nazi salute “has been debunked though” and then trolling people once those people proved them wrong by gaslighting them about how “you can’t speak for other people’s intentions!”.
They like to portray themselves as an innocent person who is “being targeted for no reason” hoping that mods and admins who are unaware of their history take their word for it without looking into things. They will claim to mods/admins that they’re being doxed because their alias, which the troll publicly posts everywhere, was mentioned in posts exposing them. They do this because they want people who point out what they’re doing to be banned, not because they’re actually concerned about doxing. Please bear in mind that this user has been caught using an AI generated voice trying to pass it off as their own and they have been permabanned from Discord servers for making up excuses when asked by mods to prove they are who they say they are. They are using a fake internet persona.
Another thing this user will do is sign up on websites using the exact usernames of the people who originally exposed them on DeviantArt and then, once called out for this, will troll about being “inspired” by those usernames, omitting the fact they’ve 1. done this dozens of times 2. they only steal the usernames of the people who exposed them on DeviantArt. They’ll also list their country on the impersonation accounts as being from the country of the person they’re impersonating, among other things, like pretending to have DID on an account that’s named after a person on DeviantArt who actually has DID and then manipulate people by claiming people calling them out on this are “denying DID exists”.
They report any posts that aren’t on their side, claiming they’re being doxed because the poster used their alias, an alias they publicly use throughout the internet, and are known for faking many aspects of their persona online.
I apologize for the lengthy post, but is it appropriate for such a person to be a mod on AskLemmy, which is a popular community, given their actions both on Lemmy and off-site?
edit: They’re now in this thread saying Elon Musk’s Nazi salute was debunked and are comparing it to Pokemon. Link
if its an issue for you. block the community and block the user and use a different community or make your own if its needed.
Holy shit I hope they get banned this is crazy
The fact this is all slander (aside from the doxxing parts) aside, I haven’t even broken any rules on-site, whether community ones or TOS.
It appears to me that he’s only arguing against the obvious nazi salute, but I don’t seem to identify a pattern here. It’s a bit thinly veiled evidence in my opinion.
Everyone should have the right to be blatantly wrong on some issues as long as it doesnt affect moderation. And since mod logs are public, why dont we wait on real evidence that shows he’s unsuited to be a moderator?
Im willing to be wrong myself here.
As I see it, if he’s a Neonazi and can Act freely in his moderation decisions according to his ideology, the whole mod team would be compromised.
So far it looks like a with hunt based on one single issue and a ban on a pokemon forum.
Edit: Usually the Nazis try to keep a clean unidentifiable profile when they try to sneak into mod positions.
Thanks, friend.
Also, I’m she/her if anyone was wondering.
My bad, it’s the default I use on the anonymous parts of the Internet for some reason, unless I know for certain.
You want me to edit it?
It’s alright, you corrected it.
OP, sounds like the solution for you is to join another server and block lemmy.world.
I mean, they did just come by just to attack me. I’ve dealt with this everywhere (not just in the fediverse) and they joined literally yesterday after their previous name (they admit that’s them) was confronted.
Average Lemmy.world mod
Everybody involved in this should be prescribed time away from the internet lol
Well. I raised this exact question months ago as a hypothetical. I was trying to learn how lemmy works, and despite my arguements that this is a stupid recoarse, here is what I was told.
Upon a troll taking power as a mod of a popular community, the fediverse won’t be affected, because you can just make a NEW community, and everyone will go there!
Alright lemmy users who aren’t part of THIS thread, but I still remember from 8 months ago…this is your time to shine! Go make new communities and show us all how your ways are realistic in real world scenarios…and not just, ya know, group jerking the group about unrealistic concepts and thus not a real solution.
And again, to op and others in this thread, I want to remind you that I’m not being snarky to you. I’m being snarky to those people 8 months ago who argued this exact scenario.
They claimed the solution is to make AskLemmy2, everybody leave AskLemmy, and now the troll is a mod of a dead community. So yeah, I’m going to be snarky. I knew that was a stupid response to this situation.
So yeah. I’m full of warrented snark tonight.
Alright lemmy users who aren’t part of THIS thread, but I still remember from 8 months ago…this is your time to shine! Go make new communities and show us all how your ways are realistic in real world scenarios…and not just, ya know, group jerking the group about unrealistic concepts and thus not a real solution.
I mean; It does work that way. See the !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone drama. People didn’t like what the mods wanted to do, so they started their own (!onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone) and it currently has more than twice the number of active users.
So it does work when most of the people give a shit. Problem is, most people don’t.
Why do your links try to open an email app? Is the problem with your links, or with my Voyager?
Bit of both. I don’t think they were trying to link the communities; just making clear what instance they were on. I think the correct nomenclature would be to put ! in front of them, like !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone
(But when I clicked “link a community” in Voyager like I did just now, it both added the ! and then formatted a link directly to blahaj in standard brackets+parentheses so tbh idk)
test !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone
seems to me like simply adding the ! without any additional formatting was all that was needed, works both in browser and voyager. i wonder why the app adds the brackets?
Also !196@lemmy.world
Upon a troll taking power as a mod of a popular community, the fediverse won’t be affected, because you can just make a NEW community, and everyone will go there!
I find that stupidity infuriating. It postulates that communities are owned by moderators and not the community and users. That is authoritarian narcissistic garbage. No one looks at or cares who the moderators are when they post anything anywhere, EVER! NEVER EVER EVER!!!
That is how these places fail to grow most people encountering this stupidity just leave. Mods serve communities just like admin. The altruism of hosting is not some neo feudal ownership of users. I’m grateful for the time and efforts spent and willing to contribute myself in the ways I can to that democracy, but anyone that acts like that means they own me can shove a whole data center and the parking lot up their root directory. Communities have momentum and belong to the users only. ANY mods that do not put users first should be purged immediately. Mods are disposable. As a mod, I am disposable. I do not matter. I am the janitor. Any mod that can not say this should be purged immediately. Anyone with any hint of narcissism is toxic to the community in every instance. Every mod and admin action is harmful and should only ever be applied to those that are causing greater harm like bigots. There should be extreme prejudice by admin at mods that are active and taking actions that were not flagged by members of the broader community. I’ll volunteer as a mod of any of the larger communities if that is what is needed. I trust users to make flags and there are very few actual actions needed here in any community.
No one looks at or cares who the moderators are when they post anything anywhere, EVER! NEVER EVER EVER!!!
Yup. I wish that it was possible to make it clear to moderators just how little of a fuck the average user gives about them. Because they generally seem to have delusions of grandeur and think of themselves as the most important people around. Which is fucking bullshit because without the users that they dismiss and treat like dirt, they wouldn’t have a platform where they get to inflate their egos in the first place.
I actually made a post about this elsewhere but I’m gonna mention it here too. The reason the API thing on Reddit didn’t cause every user to come here is because the moderators there made it all about themselves. To the average user, the whole ‘protest’ looked a lot like the people who treat users unfairly whining and crying about the admins treating them unfairly. And I can tell you, there was little to no sympathy for them. All they did was cry about their modding tools while locking entire communities that thousands or hundreds of thousands of people make use of. And they pissed everyone off.
I know that personally a big reason the API thing didn’t do much for me in my decision to leave Reddit (or not) was because the same people that forced me into using services like reveddit because they like to silently remove people’s comments without notice or a trace, were suddenly asking me for solidarity and to feel sorry for them. And at that time, my feelings towards the situation and the moderators who were crying about it was “go fuck yourselves.”
Which is fucking bullshit because without the users that they dismiss and treat like dirt, they wouldn’t have a platform where they get to inflate their egos in the first place.
I’m a mod, and I agree.
Agreed. Hopefully the !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone migration gave us hope
It would be good, then, that I don’t fit most definitions of a troll, as far as I’m aware. What you are looking at is, as I can attest (as well as prove), a mixture of falsehoods, things taken out of context, things exaggerated to seem wrong, dead issues, and unconsented releases of personal information, all by one of any number of individuals who, if you look me up, has been happening everywhere, in obvious slander campaign fashion. They redirect to some of that, though they rejoice in the fact most people do not pick issues apart and give a true critique, instead looking at one person’s warnings and garnering a general idea. This isn’t some dismissal, it has been implied by those who realize their mistake.
It would be good, then, that I don’t fit most definitions of a troll, as far as I’m aware. What you are looking at is, as I can attest (as well as prove), a mixture of falsehoods, things taken out of context, things exaggerated to seem wrong, dead issues, and unconsented releases of personal information, all by one of any number of individuals who, if you look me up, has been happening everywhere, in obvious slander campaign fashion. They redirect to some of that, though they rejoice in the fact most people do not pick issues apart and give a true critique, instead looking at one person’s warnings and garnering a general idea. This isn’t some dismissal, it has been implied by those who realize their mistake.
You recently trolled about how Elon Musk’s Nazi salute “has been debunked though” and when people proved you wrong, you proceeded to troll about how “you can’t speak for other people’s intentions” before locking the thread. You even used the “Roman salute” excuse and then went off on a tangent about Japanese anime.
A portion of your blog post supposedly debunking everything is just spent waffling about Elon Musk.
Debunked in the sense that, one, what the perception was did not match his intention, and two, a lot of the footage exaggerated his gesture anyways. I don’t rule out that it was reckless and that people are right to feel offended, just that we can’t speak for another person’s intent.
Something that’s worth noting (or which I don’t see a lot of people talking about) is the fact that the salute, historically, was done with your arm stretched out in front of you, not to the side like in the photograph of him. My style is to analyze things closely and give constructive critique (which is why, when someone mentioned he also shared antisemitic conspiracy theories, I gave some scolding words about Musk and did not continue the same “meh” reaction).
I remember when I was little and Pokémon came out with the character Registeel and the sprite had to be changed because the pose they chose for the creature just happened to resemble a Nazi salute. It was probably far less likely to be intentional in their case, but it actually looked more like the salute… and then it was memed into oblivion. Musk’s salute in the picture, though technically arguable to be the salute (and it’s possible more to his intentions might come to light), was more like the Team Rocket pose.
Don’t apologise for nazis
I’m not. Read what I said.
Here’s a quote from @Joeyowlhouse@lemmy.wtf for context:
You recently trolled about how Elon Musk’s Nazi salute “has been debunked though”
and then a selection of quotes from your reply, the one I responded to:
Debunked in the sense that, one, what the perception was did not match his intention, and two, a lot of the footage exaggerated his gesture anyways.
Something that’s worth noting (or which I don’t see a lot of people talking about) is the fact that the salute, historically, was done with your arm stretched out *in front of you*, not to the side
Musk’s salute in the picture, though technically arguable to be the salute (and it’s possible more to his intentions might come to light), was more like [the Team Rocket pose.]
You’ve claimed to know what his intention was, that the Nazi salute was done differently to the clip of Hitler himself, even though the video shows that they’re almost identical, and then that Musk’s salute was an innocent mistake.
They sound an awful lot like excuses for a guy who was caught on camera performing a salute that’s all but identical to a Nazi salute that Hitler, leader of the Nazis, performed on video.
I say what his intention is based on what he says his intention is. Every person is the authority of their own intentions, and I was relaying what he said. That’s not an excuse to say nor will it ever be, otherwise anyone and everyone could put words in anyone’s mouth and treat it as canon.
This is so embarrassing for you. Just stop. It’s sad.
Stop what? Stop elaborating on what I meant that caused me to be taken out of context? The fact people feel the need to take people out of context, and to campaign against someone wherever they go when half of what they’re saying can be put to rest in an instance, is to me what’s sadder.
Lol… okay.
I reported that tool to another mod in AskLemmy, got nowhere. Same mod you mention posted an AskLemmy question, I commented, he removed my up voted comment and then deleted his down voted, nonsensical one. I asked why and he was super weird. I’ve had maybe 1 comment removed by a mod in 15 years of reddit and 1 of Lemmy.
It’s a bad look for Lemmy, get rid of the dumbass.
I’m sorry that happened to you. Do you have a link or screenshot of those comments?
I am not sure what you are referring to as the logs don’t show anything like that, but the closest thing to what you were describing was done because the comment advocated the acts of Luigi Mangione. As a rule enforcer, I’m around to enforce the rules, especially the TOS. In the case I described, I explained to multiple people that’s why I removed it. And I’m she/her, not he/him (please don’t do what transphobes do).
This thing never stops
See what I mean now? Proving them wrong (or not doing so) doesn’t just make this go away. These are a special kind of people.
Proven wrong how? The links I’ve provided in my OP are links to things you have said and done, on your own accounts. The ones that are YouTube videos include screenshots, many of which are supplemented by links as well to prove that they are genuine. Once people point this out, you attempt to evade questions by changing the subject, claim that people must be misinterpreting everything, or say “you can’t speak for my intentions”, which is the same tactic that you used when you said that Elon Musk’s Nazi salute “has been debunked though” and then you locked your own post.
When you use an AI generated voice on Discord that you try to pass off as your own, a lot of people are going to assume that you’re dishonest.
Proven wrong how?
Read up and find out, as I’d tell anyone.
Does the chat/Discord screenshot have a link to it? Exactly.
All of this is addressed in the place I redirected to except for the final thing you mentioned. I shouldn’t even have to address that part.
a lot of people are going to assume that you’re dishonest.
Well thanks for confirming slander is your intent.
So this is today’s Lemmy drama?
It’s been going on for a while
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That moment when you realize the thumbs downs are automated or done out of spite, based on the fact that a remark was withdrawn before getting the 5+ thumbs down. They have no credibility anymore, and rule enforcers should take note at who gives things thumbs ups and thumbs downs.
I mean, as long as it doesn’t last as long as the 196 drama and spread around as many communities…
Jfc, someone ban both of these twats
Filter the user, use a different community
So as a word to all those who are onlookers here and are wondering what’s going on, this is the second person so far who has tried to participate in the same mass slander of me, as has been happening around the web. I figured this might happen, which is why I can redirect to my complete perspective, which proves the original asker/poster wrong. Ironically, the one thing they’re consistently right about are their words “don’t believe everything you hear”, which also applies to things that seem convincing enough not to consult both sides.
It’s the same person as the other posts. Not a second person.
Could something be done about it then? It’s using a serious place as a way to incite a reaction with a combination of slander and doxxing. The same kind of thing happened elsewhere, and the people in charge there, from looking into it, can attest the campaign against me is little more than a means to pit people against an undesired person.
It’s not doxxing for people to mention your alias, which you’ve publicly posted throughout the internet on your numerous accounts, in posts. You aren’t actually concerned about doxxing, you want this post to get deleted because as my other thread in another instance and another community shows, people in the comments don’t believe your “it’s all slander” excuses and manipulation once they actually click on those links and see the evidence for themselves. They join in on calling you out rather than taking your side, even after you explain your side.
You go to mods (hoping they don’t have the time to click those links and actually look into you) pretending you’re a victim who is being targeted for no reason claiming you’re being doxxed when the reality (that you deliberately don’t mention) is people are just mentioning a fake alias you publicly post everywhere and other publicly posted details about yourself that have turned out to be part of a fake online persona.
It is doxxing going by the definition laid out in the TOS. And it would be in most over places, because it’s still locally undisclosed personal information. As has been discovered by a rogue admin, some of what you say I have disclosed in fact hasn’t been disclosed, some not anywhere. When you look up my name, for example, what do you find? Just the slander your likes have been spreading everywhere.
You aren’t actually concerned about doxxing, you want this post to get deleted
Spoken like someone who came storming in not caring about the TOS. I strive to go by the TOS wherever I go, which might be why, aside from DA, the only places I’ve been given the boot from (out of the thousands of places I’m in) are those where it’s stated that who is banned is up to unspoken rules and opinions admins might have. And even these I respect, and I don’t go anywhere that isn’t my business.
When it comes to how to react, admins know better. Critical thinkers know better. Your puppets, be them hands-on or inspired, don’t. There lies the difference. I know my people. It doesn’t help peoples’ cases when they admit to not looking into it all before reacting. Your closing argument, as well as having a deceptive premise, just screams “I don’t care that the people in charge made this place with their own hands, I’m going to defy them”, which you did by using a serious center as a means to incite a reaction. So you’re one to talk (especially about boundaries).
When you look up my name, for example, what do you find? Just the slander your likes have been spreading everywhere.
Why are you lying? You’ve publicly used “Tynan Laird” for your persona on various websites.
https://www.instagram.com/youareaunitofpower/
https://www.asexuality.org/en/profile/181820-tynan-laird/
These were literally the first results. The very first result was your Instagram account. Lying to onlookers is not a good look.
Just block them. Jesus.
The fact this reply is getting thumbs downs just proves that those doing so are, in one way or another, puppets of the OP.
You both should report, block, and move on from eachother.
Funny thing about that, I have. But one side doesn’t give up.
Just so people are aware, the link is to shinigamiookamiryuu’s blog.
Also, they were recently caught using an AI generated voice on Discord while trying to pass it off as their own voice. There’s more info about their attempts at deceiving people about their persona in the comments.
First of all, ad hominem. Second, it is nothing more than falsely-concluded speculation to say I asked myself. Third, I don’t even sound how you claim/imply I do. Fourth, again, in bulk it has been addressed.
So, one day old OP, is ‘your friend’ your other account that just posted the same exact thing the other day?
Seems odd to accuse someone of creating alts
I explained that in my OP. I’m using a fresh account because the person this post is about is known to dox the people who expose them, like they did with Morothias here
I’m also trans, so I’d prefer it if a person who tells trans people to shoot up schools doesn’t have access to my main account.
Then it’s a good thing I neither want anything of yours nor am going to tell anyone that anytime soon, now isn’t it?
I also never gave away any personal information not already given by one’s user-name (and have given no other bit of info of anyone without their consent). You, on the other hand, have provided a literal dump. If what you’re doing isn’t “doxxing”, what I’ve done most certainly isn’t.
I wasn’t sure where to post about this and a friend directed me here.
is not explaining your creating alts. I couldn’t care less if you were a dining room table, much less trans. Access to your main account, what? That doesn’t have anything to do with what I said.
Are you stupid? Creating alts isn’t the complaint here.
That is one of the complaints, yes, and OP has brought it up multiple times. I just thought it was funny.
I posted that other thread, yes, but I lost my password for that account so I made this one. My friend on Discord who has been on Lemmy longer than me told me to post this in this community. Apologies for any miscommunication.
Did he tell you it would break some of the rules to do so?
What. That account was banned. You didn’t lose your password. What are you talking about.
You leave a bit out. The previous message is archived. Now try going to the main URL. It’s gone.
There’s far too many layers of drama-drama for me to care any more than the comments I’ve made. Enjoy your evening.
Thank you for not continuing to shit up the thread because you can’t read.
I was just clearing up misinformation. Thanks, have a great one too.
The fact this reply is getting thumbs downs just proves that those doing so are, in one way or another, puppets of the OP.